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Sep 16, 2025

Chen Lin: Gold, Silver Prices Breaking Out, My Stock Strategy Now

Summary

  • Gold Market Dynamics: Chen Lin highlights the increasing interest in gold, driven by Asian investors allocating more to gold and China's central bank accelerating gold purchases amid a growing trade surplus.
  • Western Gold Interest: Despite gold's recent breakout, Western investors remain less engaged, with less than 1% allocation, but potential economic weaknesses and Fed rate cuts could shift this trend.
  • Investment Strategy: Lin emphasizes a strategy focused on gold call options and liquid producers, aiming to maximize profits during bull markets while being cautious of potential downturns.
  • Silver Market Insights: Silver prices are rising due to a multi-year deficit and potential shifts towards a silver standard, with Lin predicting a possible move to triple-digit prices.
  • Silver Stocks Approach: Lin is bullish on silver stocks, particularly First Majestic, due to its high leverage to silver price movements, and emphasizes stock picking for maximum gains.
  • Critical Minerals Focus: The podcast discusses the importance of critical minerals, with a focus on rare earth elements and the strategic positioning of companies like Cerro De Pasco and Energy Fuels.
  • M&A Activity: Lin expresses optimism about M&A in the gold sector, advising investors to focus on companies with valuable assets likely to be acquisition targets.
  • Market Outlook: Lin advises investors to capitalize on the current gold and silver market uptrend, while remaining vigilant for potential market peaks in the coming years.

Transcript

[Music] I'm Charlotte McLeod with InvestingNews.com,  and here today with me is Chen Lin of Lin Asset   Management. Thank you so much for being here.  Great to have you back once again. Thank you,   Charlotte. Glad to be back. Really good to be  speaking with you. Probably the perfect time.   I wanted to follow up on a few topics that  we touched on the last time we spoke all the   way back in March. So, we talked at the time  about gold, silver, and critical minerals. So,   we'll go into all of those three today. Maybe  starting off with gold because gold has just   been making headline after headline in the last  few weeks at record highs on a this run. I'm   wondering if you can start by breaking down  what is the main gold price driver that you   see right now. Right now is investors start  waking up uh to to gold. Okay. uh there's a   report pretty good report that's basically in  Asia uh rich people start allocate 10% to gold   I mean in the west still maybe less than 1%.  So that's that's a movement. Second movement   uh there is a pick up in in the central bank  buying from China last month. uh actually goldman   uh came out with a report that China actually  probably going to buy more gold because right   now the the situation in China is China even  despite of trade war with United States and with   you know other countries China's trade surplus is  growing rapidly last year is1 trillion US dollar   this year is more than going to be more much more  than one trillion so where are they going to park   the money so uh in gold mining they will just they  will increase the gold purchase by a few hundred%   uh from now on and then continue buy for next 3  to 5 years to to reach a certain plate plateau   but very interestingly uh recently the the the  stock in China's uh gold future market just going   parabolically that actually precede the recent  gold breakout gold breakout about two weeks ago   almost exactly that's very good timely interview  valuation Charlotte. So it you pick the right   hand. So gold broke out is after the parabolic  move of the the gold stock in China's um future   because both gold has been rangebound for a long  long time and then suddenly start broke out two   two weeks started breaking out two weeks ago.  I could see that it's a big movement of China's   uh stock stock in the Shanghai and other stock  future exchange. So I see what it does is first   China accelerate gold purchase and then so well  informed Chinese investor probably heard of that   that's first second I think probably gold man  report is right China going to buy more gold and   then Chinese citizen want to front run the Chinese  government that's really interesting thank you for   going into that because you know when I've been  asking about what's driving gold right now over   the last couple of weeks a lot of what I'm hearing  ing about is with more of a a western focus where   we're talking about well the Fed has this upcoming  meeting probably going to see interest rate cuts   from the Fed. How do you factor that into when  you're looking at the gold market? Oh yeah,   it will help like the Fed will cut this week  right basically is 25% and 50%. And the United   States government turn out the job report is much  weaker than I didn't mention that because I I know   everybody seems to focus on that. So I saw you  your people are well informed but we turn on we   lost actually the down revision almost a million  job right in the past year. So uh United States   looking the economy looking weaker Fed is going  to cut US dollar is about to break down. So all   this help go what I'm saying is that the why the  gold suddenly broke out two weeks ago. I think one   of the contribution fact I'm happy to send you  the chart is a parabolic move of the chi China   uh gold holding. Yeah. Yeah, really interesting  to go into that. And so we're talking about this   the western interest in gold is still not there.  You're mentioning probably not even above 1% at   this point. At what point do you think the west  does start to wake up to okay, something is going   on here. Maybe we need to increase the amount of  gold that we own. Yeah, there is a talk on the the   bond market. This is seriously problem right now.  There's a lot of resemblance resemblance of 70s,   right? the the the inflation is still relatively  high. The economy is weak and the bond market   is having a terrible year, right? So, uh Bank of  America is pointing out is basically anything but   bond. Anything but US uh in their report. So, it's  a lot of money parking in the bond traditionally,   but if the inflations continue to be high, the  bond will be weak. That's a problem for the bond   investor. They will be losing money. So when those  money coming out, we're going to be the overpriced   stock market or you know they they could diversify  some into gold. I think that's that will drive   gold especially silver more even more favor uh  even higher. So I'm quite happy with with gold   and silver. Well and I was going to ask you about  the implication of of all these factors for the   gold price. So of course we have gold really on  the move especially over the last couple of weeks.   If you look forward, what do you see? Where do you  see gold ending let's say 2025 at in terms of the   price? Oh, that's very hard. That's very hard to  to predict. My my hope frankly as gold investor   that gold do not make barb move. Gold just go up  because it's it has a 35 you know 34 3500 for a   long time. So this move hopefully go to 4,000  around and stay there for some time. Right. the   the the the issues is if you make a parabolic move  it will be a par could be a very sharp correction   in the 70 like 70 as well that's very hurt the  gold mining companies sentiment so I I hope gold   just slowly my hope but I could be wrong go slowly  grinding higher maybe you know 4,000 by the end of   the year maybe 45 next year but the gold mining  company most of the company cost is about 1,500   so their margins are increasing the margin is so  much higher than Walmart you know and they don't   they not recognized in that right now so I think I  like gold miner company mining company and I just   discuss a little bit with with you I'm telling my  subscribers when gold broke out the two weeks I   start buying gold core option because my stock has  gone up so much some as high as a th00and% so I   don't want to chase them so I buy call options and  they're doing well so far Yeah, maybe it's a good   time to talk a little bit more about your strategy  when it comes to the gold stocks right now. So,   the call options is one way that you're taking a  look. Are you looking at companies of all sizes or   are you honing in in any specific area? How how  are you looking at it? Yeah, I I I'm you know,   first I'm I'm manage my family's asset also write  a newsletter. I tell my tell the ideas. I I like   liquid stock because my family has a sizable you  know uh asset base. uh so I one not I always like   is the producer and so it's very liquid you if you  don't like it you can get out almost in one day   right so and but my producer has been appreciated  so much so I cannot really chase at this moment   but then I saw gold breakouts like just buy core  options you can try even GDX core option my GDI   core option almost doubled I mean in the in two  weeks so there are so many avenues you can play Uh   my strategy tend to be aggressive. Uh because if  you look at the historical uh gold bull and bus,   bull and bus and lot of um when they go down  it basically a lot of times wipe out all the   gains especially in gold mining uh company uh  as before. So I always have this uh urgency when   in a bull market I need to maximize my profit  and then when the market start to turn one day   always do I mean so I I will play conservatively  try to do the capital conservation try to avoid   the downdraft or you know reduce the loss of the  downdraft but maximize the the profit on the up   upswing. So gold typically enter a season if you  know that you know very well the gold is seasonal   uh September October is the Indian new year  Christmas and Chinese new year January February   so in this period gold physical demand is high  uh and so gold typical do well so that's why I'm   buying cool options into you know early next year  hopefully I mean I've been done that before I got   20 10 20 baggers relatively easily. So, uh I hope  I can repeat that and then you know with a profit   we can put something else maybe critical metal  maybe silver maybe maybe juniors I also invest   in heavily invest in junior junior tend to move  differently uh versus producer junior has its own   pattern. So uh you know they may not move as much  as a producer frankly when when we have this move   some stock. So you can always hopefully I take  profit next year and then I look at the other   juniors who invest also other sector like critical  medals which I'm very very excited about. I think   it's really good to cover the timing because  people people look at this and they wonder   okay well when when is the time to get in when  is the time to get out. So good to take a look   at at your strategy there. Just a little bit more  on the gold companies. So you mentioned with the   price being so high the gold producers are are  doing well. We're starting to see some pretty   big M&A activity in the gold space, in the mining  space as well. Are you liking what you see there?   Do these transactions make sense? And what do you  see coming forward when it comes to M&A activity?   Yes. Uh oh, I always like MMA, but I don't like  to the purchase. I like to be buy purchase,   right? The stock um you know, recently the  the Hamlow purchase, right? So the barric   which happens the the target company was I own  I mean I'm very happy I mean the the stock is   halted right now they're doing a b deal at $2 and  very happy so see where where it trading at that I   think that's a good purchase um there uh there's a  there's quite a few I think will accelerate uh so   you want to buy those companies with good a good  asset or you know to be to be bought. So that's   my that's my advice. So I I love the M&A and it's  but sometime the top of the market the big far big   uh gold company they tend to overpay. So so that's  that's something you need to keep in mind. Yeah.   Yeah. Got to be careful there. And let's let's  take a look over at silver as well. So also really   exciting price moves in silver. We saw it get past  40 and even $42 per ounce. And this is something   that investors have been waiting for a long time  for. So I'll ask you the same question I asked   with gold. What is driving this move in silver  that that we have been waiting for for quite some   time? Yeah, there's multiple fold. We have silver  deficit uh for past four years, four five years.   So uh if you uh notice uh when the deficit after 3  years sometime metal can make a very dramatic move   just like platin it suddenly jumped right after  four years of deficit. So uh before palladian   also made a similar move. So those are small uh uh  metals take some time for investor to realize that   that's one thing and second uh silver versus gold  if you look at the 30-year actually put it chart   together 30 35 years gold and versus silver you  silver shouldn't be much much higher silver should   be triple digit so uh that's another and then the  third there's a call for the central bank to go   back to the silver standard remember silver used  to be the monetary metal and then it it dropped   the monetary metal. So people with gold people  think also thinking about silver maybe we should   have a s silver dollar back US and Canada we used  to have that in as as as early as 60s right so   1960 so so that so that that's a you know I see um  silver should break the $50 uh historical high and   I'm hoping to triple digit silver in in the next  few years hopefully hopefully we can we can see   that finally just just going back to the central  bank angle do you think central banks would buy   silver that's a very good question that's that's  a million dollar question so I heard uh Russia   already make some move uh to make a silver  one of the monetary metals Russia already did   uh that will put pressure on China very very heavy  pressure because China historically silver is   um monetary metal right if you go to China  bank bank means silver. It's in Chinese. Okay.   Bank mean silver. So basically in the culture  culture wise and also on historical um in history   uh people remember silver and the as the as the  money. So they could if Chinese if Chinese central   bank make a move this silver can really run but  I don't know whether they will or they will not   but it's it's pressure. Yeah. Yeah. That would  be quite something I think. And I want to ask   you about this silver stocks as well. how you're  approaching because we know of course that there   are are fewer silver companies out there than gold  companies. So what is your approach right now when   it comes to the silver stocks? Yeah, I generally  stop picking uh you know I do stock picker. I pick   number one silver stock of you know actually it's  mine this year number one silver actually number   five on the can Canada in all all the stock okay  of you know I think um I was we invite them to   present on my panel early this year so investor  if they realize that the boy at that time they   will be number one stock silver stock that's I'm  very happy number two actually also my first NEO I   already sold it because trading in London you know  time zone difference. I mean I made a good part   money and core probably number three silver stock  I already start selling it reach 10 year high   recently this this week and still going higher  so I start to trend right now I'm more focus on   uh first majestic uh why I like first majestic  it's a highly leverage silver 60% revenue is   silver though silver move first majestic tend to  be the most leveraged stock okay so I I like I   have I have stock I have core options are so good.  Core option already up 100% in a week. So um yeah   stock also has multiple folds. So then those are  I think but I think it has momentum uh because the   the silver goes um so goes first majestic that's  happened historically so many times I hoping for   much higher price or much much higher. I hope  my option will be 10 20 bagger by early next   year. So that's uh that's typical. I mean I have  those um uh the silver uh you know stock and then   uh I also have this used to be silver quest and  now quarterly I mean they appreciate so much a lot   of silver stock already appreciate so much and the  one haven't really appreciate a lot in silver but   they have some little bit startup start startup  issues. or you know if you're you know if it's   um uh people need to take some risk to to invest  that that's a producer uh for juniors one of my   favorite has been Cerro De Pasco, they going to  present two weeks from from here on my panel so   I hope investor to take a look and this could be  the the superstar not super also has some critical   metal um so have the two in one so so again  investing stock very very risky you have to   read all uh disclaimers on your website, on my  website, just to make sure you know you're you   know you're getting the right stuff. Do your own  analysis. Absolutely. That's that's so important.   And just a one more note on silver. So there is  some excitement I think a few weeks ago at this   point when the US released its new draft critical  minerals list. So and silver was on there. So I   don't know if it's quite official yet, but looks  like it's heading in that direction. So what are   your thoughts on that? Does silver make sense as a  a critical mineral for you? Yeah, absolutely. You   hit it right on the nail. That's another thing I  want to talk. The US released a critical mineral   and then there's a chart on which metals how  important they are to to United States. Silver   actually is there and believe it or not this is  there and I'm so happy that it's been recognized   as one of the critical minerals and maybe it's  wake up some investor to to put more money into   silver. Again, silver market is relatively small.  So, not a lot of money can really move it. And so,   that's why one thing about silvers, you know, when  they really move, you know, may wake up one day,   it's up $10. I mean, it happened before. I've been  through that. So, I so that my experience and I'm   I'm I'm heavily in silver stock, sore options,  and then silver future. So, uh, you know, uh,   my plan is the silver hit 50, I'll take some off  future market, not in stock, but I think it will   blow through 50. Maybe I well, I'll take profit  $100. Makes makes sense. And so, let's continue   on on the critical minerals angle. This is another  topic we talked about toward the beginning of the   year. So, I think everybody knows, especially  now with all the tariffs in place, how important   critical minerals are becoming. But it's there's  so many metals that now are critical. So it's   maybe difficult for investors to know okay which  should I focus on? So when it comes to critical   minerals where are you focusing at the moment?  What do you see as the most important right? So   there is a a list I think I'm happy to send send  you the chart you can take a look on the um uh   published by United State government only a few  a few weeks ago. So I have silver in it and also   listed the five most important metal uh that to  the United States that China control almost 100%.   That cost United States 15 billion. The first  time they quantify that 15 billion a year. Okay,   that's a number. Uh that's a four is a heavy  rers you know those I I'll send you the name   because very hard for me to pronounce I mean but  the fifth one is scaly. Okay. So the top five uh   you can see that you can you can see the the value  but most most importantly is also heavily used in   the military. So if we cannot produce fighter  jet that's cannot quantify so it's probably   could be even higher. Very interestingly Baron's  magazine just last weekend the cover page of Baron   magazine is rare earth that's that's very good.  So that means mainstream investors are looking at   the rarest but unfortunately as I explained to  you I think it's a terribly written uh article   it's really not Baron standard that guy doesn't  really have detail understanding of the rare earth   different rare earth that how they're important  they don't have the picture even the United   States government picture which rare earth is more  important and also doesn't understand the mining   and processing are two different thing mining  China only mining 50% % but China is m processing   90% more than 90% rarers. Okay. So processing  actually more important than mining to the   United States. So that that's why I really like  a little company which I own from you know for a   few years called the energy fuel. Uu so because  it it has only processing plant in the United   States already start producing heavy rear. So when  they announced the announcement came out last week   uh even I heard from some feedback from China so  oh United States uh gap is not five year maybe   it's three years if government really gave them  money maybe two years so they can catch up with   the heavy but market really doesn't see that I  mean doesn't haven't recognized so that's actually   another uh discovery process that takes some time  for for investor to realize how if Not every rare   earth is is the same and also there's real metals  uh like gallium and germanium. Germanium going to   be important too that uh because it's the solid  state battery I saw coming out later this year and   early next year the Chinese already start making  those they're actually very heavy in germanium. So   germanium going to be another hot metal. So those  are the super critical to the United States and   then 100% controlled uh by China almost 100%.  Right? So gallium is 98%, germanium no number   is very very close to 100%. So those are most  important to United States. Uh I think maybe take   a few months for investor to realize that um it is  um every rare earth is different and every company   is different. Yeah. Yeah, and there are so many  of them. It can be really hard, I think, to get a   handle on it at first, but maybe we are coming  into that time when people people's awareness   grows. So, what do you think? So, clearly there is  emphasis right now from the US on having critical   minerals mining come back into the country and  hopefully the processing as well. How how well do   you think the US is doing at this time? What would  you want to see maybe more of at the right now?   Well and you know if you look at the China and  then uh United States just had another round   of talk in Spain with no results. I think one  of the trump card China have is rare earth and   critical other critical matters. So I I think  United States government also it's a learning   process but realize what hurt United States the  most. Uh but it's all already there. I mean if you   dig a little bit deeper you realize those medals  are super super critical to the United States and   I think in maybe in a few months uh investor will  will recognize uh those how important those those   metals are. So for for us uh we want to position  ourself uh before people recognize that. So that's   another reason I like Cerro De Pasco, they probably  had the largest gallium deposit outside China and   so that's not just silver also is a it's a rare  earth real critical metal play so uh so two in   one yeah yeah nice to see those together and any  any other areas that you are focusing right now   that you see as good investment opportunities yeah  um other other mining area I mean I'm mostly into   those I think those are pretty heavy in mining  you know uh also in some some copper I like copper   uh so there's one company, McEwen Mining, I  really like because they're going to do copper   unit going to be IPO uh in a few months and then  the the valuation of the copper unit will believe   it or not the shareholder own will be higher  than the current market cap. So that that's   that's almost like and then they also have a very  nice uh you know gold business going. You get the   gold for free. So that that's the thing I like and  um I already own that for some time. Uh stock and   core options for full disclosure. Okay. Well, I  think this was really good. We it feels like we   went through the main focuses in your strategy  right now. But before I let you go, any final   thoughts that you would leave investors with?  It's definitely an exciting time at the moment.   Yeah, I my my thought is always um the uh investor  we are in in this u round right in this gold and   silver run. I hope investors maximize profit look  using the opportunity maximize the profit because   we have been down for so many years and the  rebound can be very very sharp and we I seems   uh especially in a lot of stocks too we're in the  early phase so hopefully you have to maximize your   profit and protect your profit uh when when the  when market peak so I hope it won't happen doesn't   look like going to happen next few months But  in the few years it could pick and then that's   something always keep in your mind. Okay. Well, I  think those are really good words to end on. So,   thank you so much for coming on to talk today.  It was great to get your updated thoughts on   what's going on in the resource sector. Thank  you, Charlotte. Great to talk to you again. Of   course. Once again, I'm Charlotte McLeod with  InvestingNews.com and this is Chen Lin. Thank   you for watching. If you like this video, make  sure you hit the like button and subscribe to   our channel. We'd also love to hear your  thoughts, so leave us a comment below. [Music]