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Sep 16, 2024

The Anatomy of The Bear: Digging Through Financial History w/ Shawn O'Malley (MI369)

Summary

  • Bear Market Bottoms: Argues that major market bottoms often offer the best long-term equity returns, with subsequent high-return periods typically lasting at least eight years.
  • Inflation and Valuations: Emphasizes thinking in real (inflation-adjusted) terms, noting that inflation cycles drive long-term equity valuation trends.
  • Historical Case Studies: Deep dives into the 1921 and 1932 bottoms, showing how extreme undervaluation can arise via sideways prices amid rising earnings or via sharp crashes from overvaluation.
  • Federal Reserve and Credit: Details how the Fed’s evolving role, money supply shifts, and credit expansion or contraction shaped both booms and busts.
  • Signals of Bottoms: Highlights indicators like improving economic news being ignored, rate cuts, bond market rallies, rising up-day volumes, and short sellers running out of shares.
  • Banking Crises Risk: Notes how banking failures amplified the 1929–1932 downturn, contrasting it with the 1921 bottom where sentiment and fundamentals diverged.
  • Long-Term Perspective: Stresses patience in US equities, citing evidence that long holding periods historically mitigate loss risk and capture recoveries.

Transcript

(00:00) if the stock market doesn't keep up with  inflation the point of most undervaluation in a   market bottom isn't necessarily the lowest nominal  price point if markets tread water for a few years   even with some gains the market may get even  cheaper after accounting for inflation he found   that while many believe Market despair panic and  bankruptcies Mark a bottom economic gains and   improving media sentiment lead Market recoveries  by several months hello before we dive into the   video be sure to click that subscribe button so (00:36) you never miss an episode show us some   love by giving a thumbs up and sharing your  thoughts in the comments your support really   means everything to us so as mentioned at the  top of the show I want to break down today   two of the four episodes of financial history  covered in Napier's book and I'll be relying   on his research for much of that I'll share  some big picture takeaways from the book and   then zoom in on the two bare Market I found most  interesting to study in his study Napier found   generally that market bottoms yield the (01:07) greatest amount of bargain pric   stocks when market prices fail to keep Pace  with economic and earnings growth using the   example of the Market's low in 1921 the Dow  Jones Industrial Average which was the stock   index most widely referenced then which is sort  of similar to the S&P 500 today had fallen to the   same price level as 22 years earlier in 1899  despite nominal GDP having grown 383 since   then the economy had made two decades worth of  progress yet stock prices were stuck in the 19th   century that was a Telltale sign that the stock (01:46) market was hugely undervalued something   similar happened in 1982 when the Dow index was  at the same nominal level it hit in 1964 yet it   was down 70% in real inflation adjusted terms  by napers count this represented the fourth   best buying opportunity in stocks during the  20th century one of the key takeaways Napier   offers is that while we can find specific  points that Mark a bottom in stock prices   the actual process for stocks to travel  from their peaks of overvaluation to the   depths of undervaluation can take about 14 years (02:22) in the bare markets that he's studied   not a quarter not 6 months not a year but 14  years that's a huge chunk of an Investor's   adult life to be trapped in such a peak to  trough cycle another key lesson is to learn   to think in real terms if you just look at a  chart of the Dow Jones index the bottom came   in December 1974 at a low of 570 but between  1974 and 1982 there was a tremendous amount of   inflation and at a price level of 760 in mid  1982 the Dow was actually down 15% from 1974   in inflation adjusted terms meaning if the (03:05) stock market doesn't keep up with   inflation the point of most undervaluation in  a market bottom isn't necessarily the lowest   nominal price point if markets tread water  for a few years even with some gains the   market may get even cheaper after accounting  for inflation in researching his book the   anatomy of the bear Napier dug through 70,000  articles from The Wall Street Journal to better   understand the context and move surrounding  the four major bottoms of the 20th century   he found that while many believe Market (03:36) despair panic and bankruptcies   markab bottom economic gains and improving  media sentiment lead Market recoveries by   several months he also finds that across these  four episodes the minimum period of subsequently   High returns was eight years after a bottom but  these recoveries usually lasted much longer than   that the challenge with financial history is  that we have very limited modern precedents to   go off of a sample size of four is incredibly  small but it's really all we have you can find   a handful of other relevant examples but (04:12) the point Still Remains we must   make the most of the limited examples we  have to learn from before we dive into the   1921 Bottom I want to continue to share some of  the big picture takeaways from studying Market   bottoms one of Napier's fundamental findings  is that stock valuations are mean reverted   as in they resist the extremes over long periods  of time and move back toward their average levels   across a variety of valuation metrics that point  is really nothing new but more interesting is   his realization that the Catalyst for such (04:45) reversions is often linked to swings   in inflation inflation is fundamentally  destabilizing for financial asset prices   it shortens investment time Horizons because  when inflation is high and unpredictable no one   wants to be caught taking long term risks that  could burn them if inflation is even higher in   the future this is seen most obviously with bond  prices which sell off the most when expectations   for future inflation rise bonds payback fixed  sums of principle and interest so there's a   real risk that you could buy a bond today and get (05:19) repaid with dollars that are significantly   less valuable in 20 or 30 years bond prices tend  to sell off until they become cheap enough that   the returns offered exceed investors concerns  about long-term inflation something very similar   happens with stocks when inflation is high or  rapidly Rising company's future earnings and   profitability become increasingly difficult  to predict as you become less confident in a   business's prospects you'd naturally pay less to  own it so big multi-decade trends in inflation can  (05:53) drive which direction stock valuations  move in over time as Napier highlights import   price Prices rose just 1.6% from 1981 to 2001  this apparent death of inflation coincides   almost exactly with the great 1982 to 2000  Equity bull market meanwhile one of the   worst periods for owning stocks from 1969 to 1981  coincided with a 370% increase in import prices   understanding the trends driving inflation  is quite consequential to understanding the   environment for stocks fortunately according to  Professor Jeremy seagull's analysis anyone who has  (06:36) been able to hold on to stocks for at  least 17 years has never lost money in the stock   market the downside is that few of us have such  patience the average holding period for stock   investors is around 10 months now down from as  long as 5 years in the 1970s in the 20th century   35 out of those 100 years delivered negative  returns for US stocks and in eight of those years   there were negative returns of more than 20% so  as Napier puts it quote the average investor will   likely encounter a bar Market every 3 years or (07:10) so and every 13 years the be will be   particularly mean we saw one as recently as  2022 when the S&P 500 delivered a negative   return of 18% so be markets will come and  go and Napier acknowledges that by writing   quote Bears however can be beautiful in their  own way and an alternative title for this book   might have been how I learn to stop worrying  and love the bear bear markets give us price   discounts on our favorite stocks and therefore  we should come to appreciate them I'll also   add that in the book Napier determines (07:46) whether markets are roughly over   or undervalued by comparing a company's market  valuation with the cost to replace its assets   so a company trading below fair value is  one at least in apus definition that trades   at a price below the replacement value of its  assets and with that let's take a look at the   great Market bottom outlined in the book  in August 1921 while the US Stock Market   boomed in the early years of World War I by  August 1921 the Dow Jones index of industrial   companies sat at the same price level it (08:22) had reached 22 years prior while this new   sector of industrial companies was seen as risky  those who had stuck with blue chip railroad stocks   fared even worse with prices sitting at the same  levels as in 1881 with stocks in 1921 trading at   a 70% discount to the replacement value of their  assets the outlook for future returns couldn't   have been better the next eight years would be  the best in the New York stock exchanges nearly   140e history but just a few months earlier  in September 1920 an attack on America's  (08:57) Center of capitalism left Wall Street  rattle L right outside of JP Morgan's offices   on Wall Street an explosion rocked Lower  Manhattan sending stock Brokers at the New   York Stock Exchange running to flee flying glass  and killing 40 people as Napier writes the bomb   was not the only disturbance on Wall Street  a vicious bar Market was also wreaking havoc   buying at the bottom is an Investor's goal  and there was arguably no more profitable   time to do so than in the summer of 19 21 that  wasn't as obvious at the time as you might think  (09:33) for the simple reason that no stock  index accurately captured the entire stock   market at the time in the same way that the S&P  500 and NASDAQ 100 indexes can tell conflicting   stories about the market the same was true in 1921  but leading indexes were even less representative   of the big picture to gauge what was happening  in markets one had to watch both the Dow Jones   Industrial Average and the Jones Railroad stock  average let's go a bit further back in time to   understand the leadup to the great bottom of (10:08) 1921 in 1896 trading of industrial   stocks accounted for 48% of the trading volume on  the New York Stock Exchange with the other 52% of   the volume going toward railroad stocks  but volume in general was in Decline as   the market recovered from the Panic of 1893 to  1895 in that per period the original JP Morgan   the namesake for the bank helped Breathe new  life into the distressed railroad sector by   spearheading a number of mergers as Napier writes  a merger Mania soon followed after and the number   of business mergers in the United States (10:46) Rose from 69 in 1897 to more than   1,200 in 1899 the merger boom benefited railroad  companies the most as the industry's profitability   had been crushed by excess capacity a  six-year bull market in the railroad   index delivered returns well beyond what the  Industrials offered at that same time it was   only the assassination of President William  McKinley in 1901 that cooled the enthusiasm   for railroad stocks as the great trustbuster  Theodore Roosevelt took office Roosevelt had   little Sympathy for the many businesses that (11:24) had combined together into monopolies   and oligopolies across the US especially those  that had effective unified to control pricing in   their Industries naturally the mature railroad  industry was a larger Target for trust busting   than the burgeoning industrial sector and by  1911 trading in industrial stocks exceeded   railroad stocks for the first time in over 15  years from there with a roughly 50/50 share of   total market capitalization prices for railroad  and Industrial stocks would diverge hugely   beginning 3 years later at the start of (11:59) World World War by 1921 railroad   stocks fell from representing half of the stock  market's value to just over 10% while industrial   companies shares rocketed to almost 90% World  War I had transformed the US Stock Market and   many railroad companies had been nationalized  the seeming inevitability of war after Arch   duuk France Ferdinand was assassinated in  June 1914 sent us stock prices spiraling   with many fearing that gold would flow out  of the US to finance a European War which   would drastically reduce the supply of money (12:35) available in the US to facilitate   economic growth this was of course a different  time when currency values were tied to gold   and a nation's Holdings of gold could quite  literally determine its potential for growth   when Austria declared war on Serbia on July  28th stock exchanges around the world promptly   close down the next day from Montreal to  Madrid Budapest Brussels Rome and Berlin   with London's exchange shutting down on July  31st the New York Stock Exchange was left with   little choice but to follow suit the NYSC which (13:11) is the acronym I'll use for the New York   Stock Exchange didn't reopen for 6 months and  when it did there were a number of restrictions   on trading in place while the exchange had been  closed over fears that Global Investors would   liquidate all their us Investments to fund  the war the opposite actually happened funds   flowed into US Stocks reflecting how  American companies had benefited from   being a neutral industrial Powerhouse selling  Goods to both sides it was a boom in profits   per share unlike any other sense in nominal (13:43) terms profits for US stocks in 1916   would not be surpassed until 1949 some 33 years  later in real terms adjusting for inflation Us   corporate earnings wouldn't beat the mark set in  1916 until 1955 according to Napier us industrial   companies quickly were recognized as the biggest  beneficiaries of the war in Europe and earn the   nickname War bridges that momentum would shift  though in 1917 when the US joined the war itself   which sent the market lower measures to support  the war effort like governmental controls on  (14:20) commodity prices plus the failure of the  railroads to secure approvals for rate increases   from the Interstate Commerce Commission Rising  costs and new taxes on excess profits to fund   new government debt all weighed on US Stocks it  was not until the stalemated war in Europe finally   came to an end in 1919 that the industrial index  would enjoy another bull market when it hit a new   all-time high in November 1919 as mentioned the  Divergence between the performance of railroad   and Industrial stocks up and until this (14:53) point couldn't have been any bigger   primarily because so many railroad companies  had been nationalized by the government for   shareholders their equity in these companies  effectively turned into bonds where the   government paid them fixed dividends based on  the average earnings of their companies prior   to nationalization possible returns for railroad  shareholders then were quite constrained and many   were optimistic that railroad stocks would recover  with the end of nationalization which came in   March 1920 meanwhile the Federal Reserve which (15:27) has become a very powerful force in   today's financial markets was still in its infancy  and with that its actions were unpredictable to   investors as gold flowed into the us as countries  paid off wartime debts the money supply ballooned   yet the Federal Reserve which was formed in just  1913 had not accumulated enough Assets in its   Short History to fend off this inflationary  surge if it had more financial assets on its   balance sheet the FED could have sold them to  the public and pulled money out of circulation   this is similar to what we (16:01) call quantitative   tightening today as Napier writes quote in  more simple terms the FED could stretch the   elastic currency in its early years but until  it had first been stretched it could not be an   instrument for monetary tightening while the  Federal Reserve had little impact on investors   up until when the US entered the war everything  changed from there on America began to sell Goods   to its allies on credit rather than in return  for gold and the flow of gold to the US fell   off in 1917 additionally with the US government (16:35) adopting large spending deficits during   the war the Federal Reserve embraced the role  of helping Finance those deficits commercial   Banks would lend funds to Americans who wanted  to buy liberty bonds to support the war effort   and then commercial Banks would turn around and  essentially sell those loans back to the Federal   Reserve investors hurried to try and wrap their  heads around what the fed's growing role in the   financial system would would mean exactly for  the Dollar's value and inflation both during  (17:03) and after the war America's last major  war at this point was the Civil War and during   that time the gold standard had been suspended but  investors who used that as a reference point would   have been misled with the Federal Reserve now in  place there was a lot more short-term flexibility   in the money supply and that enabled the country  to remain on the gold standard through World War   I investors who had bet on the gold standard being  suspended again had failed to understand how the   recently formed Federal Reserve had already (17:34) changed the structure of the financial   system as the war wound down in 1918 economic  decline hit the us as demand for America's   manufactured goods fell off the FED would try  its hand for the first time at using monetary   policy to stimulate the economy keeping interest  rates significantly below what they otherwise   would be to preserve the value of government  bonds issued during the war if that last part   is a little confusing I'll just clarify that  bond prices have an inverse relationship with   interest rates so by keeping rates low (18:08) the Fed was helping to prevent   a wave of paper losses on bonds from Rippling  across the financial system with interest rates   so low it was believed that the system could  distinguish between legitimate borrowing for   useful economic purposes and speculative  borrowing where people exploited the low   rates for highrisk but High reward endeavors as  has happened several times in the last century   and in more recent memory though Society did  not have the collective restraint necessary   to keep borrowing toward only legitimate (18:40) purposes instead a speculative Mania   kicked off and a bull market in industrial  stocks and commodities raged through 1919   according to Napier while it had long been  an accepted principle that wartime inflation   would lead to postwar deflation during the  gold standard the aftermath of World War I   did not follow that that same blueprint thanks  to the Federal Reserve the FED stretched the   money supply even further to assist with funding  the government and as the money supply increased   so did inflation markets were playing by new (19:11) rules and investors following the old   rules missed the 1919 bull market on the flip  side some extrapolated the fed's role too much   and actually thought interest rates might never  rise again which was of course also wrong still   where the FED had never provided credit into  the financial system before November 1914 by   the end of 1919 it was providing a sum of  credit equivalent to 4% of GDP with the FED   helping to provide more credit and increase the  money supply which works to keep interest rates   low you can recall back to your econ 101 (19:48) days many investors at the time   reportedly embraced the idea that borrowing low  interest loans for speculative bets was inherently   less risky now thanks to the Federal Reserves  new role in the economy they all too willingly   loaded up on speculative debts that fueled a  substantial rise in asset prices only for a   more painful hangover to hit from 1920 into 1921  this all paints a picture of what was going on at   the time but it doesn't fully explain why stocks  were so exceptionally cheap in 1921 and why this  (20:22) was arguably the biggest bottom  in US Stocks during the 20th century big   questions surrounding the fed's continued role  and markets after the war and how Europe would   recover weighed on investors minds but there  were simpler challenges that could also set   the stage for stocks to be hugely mispriced  we take for granted today the plethora of   economic data available at our fingertips  and the standardization processes that   governmental agencies and private organizations  go through to clean up those numbers and make them  (20:52) useful for us but it goes without saying  that that hasn't always been the case official   calculations of GDP for example didn't start  until 1929 it's hard for us even in hindsight to   know exactly how much the economy grew between  1914 and 1919 in both real and nominal terms   determining whether you think prices of stocks  offer fair value is very much connected to one's   outlook for and understanding of inflation and  economic growth yet if there were no widely   accepted calculations of economic growth or (21:25) methods for measuring inflation then   investors may be making decisions with wildly  different sets of data the fog of war was also   quite disruptive too by 1919 any available  economic data was hugely distorted by World   War I so investors had the not so easy task  of trying to reconcile corporate earnings and   stock valuations from before the war with  after the war if you were an investor in   industrial companies you have to ask yourself  whether the good times of substantial profits   were likely to increase or whether those companies (21:58) earnings would reverse to pre-war levels   it's not so different from today with the pandemic  you might look at a house's price and say well   it's cheap compared to 2021 but expensive compared  to 2019 even after accounting for inflation so   what are you to do in that situation the  same thing happens with stocks as well   companies hit unprecedented valuations during the  pandemic bull market and when trying to discern   whether those same stocks offer good value today  investors have to ask themselves whether they're  (22:28) comt making comparisons to the pandemic  era or whether it's better to make comparisons   with only pre-pandemic numbers and the same goes  for earnings Zoom was a huge covid beneficiary and   investors in the company spent much of the last  two or so years trying to figure out whether those   exceptional Financial results would continue after  the pandemic was largely considered over well it's   tempting to say that you should throw out covid  eror evaluations and results and reference only   more normal pre-co times doing so doesn't (23:01) account for the fact that we live   in a different world now than in 2019 Co  has changed the world and we can't ignore   that using the zoom example again remote work  is obviously not as common today as it was in   2020 but it's still is considerably more popular  than in 2019 Co changed the way we work and that   fundamentally changed zoom's Outlook as a company  how do you get started with Stock Investing I've   put together a course to teach you everything  I wish I knew when I first started investing in  (23:31) stocks let's start at the beginning  and ask what is a stock let's zoom on in into   what it's actually like to buy a stock a few  options are Charles Schwab tdamer trade Ally   E Trade fortunately you won't have to necessarily  calculate all of these taxes yourself I'll outline   a few main ones to be aware of throughout  your lifetime investing Journey as Warren   Buffett says your best investment is yourself  there's nothing that can compares to it by the   end you'll be savier about Stock Investing (24:02) in personal finance than the vast   majority of people even if you're not a total  beginner I'm confident you'll get a lot out of   the principles and strategies I outlined which  will'll build on throughout link to the course   is available in the description below see you  there investors in 1920 fa the same challenge   markets were thrown out of whack by World War  I but investors had to make their own decisions   about how relevant trends markets during that  same period were going forward for example it  (24:32) wasn't clear whether the US's surge in  economic growth and trade as it sold supplies   to both sides during the war in the first two  years represented a one-off gain or whether it   was indicative of the US taking on a more lasting  and growing role in global trade which could offer   a more permanent boost to American companies  profits just imagine yourself at this time you'd   be debating the future of the gold standard  the Federal reserves impact on the financial   system and whether America was truly a rising (25:03) manufacturing superpower or just a   temporary winner during the war the questions  are clearly different from the ones we asked   today but their Essence is similar over a hundred  years later you'll hear just as much debate about   the FED on CNBC after wholesale prices had risen  147% from 1914 to 1919 there was tremendous fear   that those higher prices would have to work  their way out of the system system during a   period of deflation where prices this is very much  a consequence of the gold standard which operates  (25:36) differently from the prevailing fiat-based  Financial system around the globe today we rarely   see deflation now instead the rate of inflation  usually just decelerates during downturns but   during the gold standard sharp deflations could  occur after a boom period while most people think   of the Great Depression as being America's most  severe bout of deflation the annual rates of   deflation in 1921 were actually even sharper wages  for unskilled workers fell from their Peak by more   than half in 1921 by 1921 the alternatives to the (26:10) gold standard were becoming more clear as   well countries like Germany Poland Russia and  Hungary had largely abandoned the gold standard   leaving authorities with the discretion to print  money as they saw fit to stimulate the economy   by ditching the gold standard these countries did  succeed in a way in dodging the expected post-war   deflation in 1921 Germany's economy experienced  roughly 30% inflation off the gold standard while   France which had a currency still anchored to  Gold saw a 24% collapse in prices and as the  (26:44) inflation took off so did the Frankfurt  Stock Exchange which increased 40% in 1921 in part   the stock market rise is attributable to many  in Germany realizing that their savings were   being destroyed by inflation which pushed them  to convert as much of their cash as possible into   stocks they thought might better hold their value  meanwhile as inflation took hold the German Mark   depreciated in foreign exchange markets actually  making Germany's economy more competitive since   its exports were becoming cheaper for (27:16) foreign countries for Americans   with the Germans off the gold standard and taking  manufacturing market share away from them it began   to look like the recession in the US could even  be worse than first feared as European countries   off the gold standard more than reclaimed their  market shares in areas that had been lost during   the war and anyone familiar with viar Germany  will know what happened next abandoning the   gold standard and haphazardly printing money  ultimately led the country into hyperinflation   but of course in 1921 that outcome wasn't so (27:49) clear going back to the US Stock Market   in the summer of 1921 there were only 382  listed stocks on the New York Stock Exchange   compared with over 2200 today while railroad  stocks made up just 1% of newly issued stock   at the time and emerging sector was  rapidly gaining importance automobiles   other key growth businesses were Rubber and  cigarettes which were gaining popularity over   forms of loose tobacco there were some other  recognizable names at the time too like American   Express AT&T Coca-Cola General Electric and (28:26) Nabisco intensifying the bare Market   in stocks was a long bare Market in bonds  that lasted over two decades the drought   and bond returns worsened during World War  I as the government issued more and more   debt increasing the supply of bonds in  the market and thus lowering their price   federal debt Rose from an extremely modest 2. (28:51) 7% of GDP in 1916 to 32.9% by 1921 a   15-fold increase in public debt in 5 years is  enough to even make today's politicians blush   investors had to absorb those Bond increases but  they did so at equity's expense they only had so   much money to allocate to both asset classes  and with more and more bonds floating around   in markets funds available for Stock Investing  got squeezed Out World Peace didn't offer Bond   investors a break either mounting inflation after  the war drove further selling pressure on bonds   with 80% of the original holders of Liberty Bonds (29:27) issued to finance the war selling out   across 1920 and 1921 uncertainty around all the  different factors we've discussed so far fed into   the great bare Market bottom of 1921 as Russell  Napier concludes almost every bare Market in US   Stock Market history was preceded by a period  when stock prices ran up in excess of economic   fundamentals the same was true in 1921 but the  lows were equally incompatible with economic   fundamentals as the Dow Jones Industrial Average  sat in 1921 at the same level it had reached  (30:01) in 1899 the economy was vastly different  in those 22 years the population had grown 41%   the working age population had grown 45% nominal  GDP had nearly quadrupled and real GDP had nearly   doubled yet the leading stock index at the time  was flat in nominal terms part of the problem for   stock investors over the four decades leading  up to 1921 was that corate earnings per share   gross significantly trailed economic growth  publicly traded companies increased earnings   by only 130% from 1881 whereas nominal GDP grew (30:39) by over 700% as Napier puts it quote in   this remarkable period of growth for the  US economy shareholders clearly failed to   benefit to the extent one would have expected the  failure of corporate earnings to keep Pace with   economic growth is one key reason why equities  had disappointed investors even prior to the   bare Market of 1919 to 1921 using normalized  earnings for 1921 Napier estimates that stock   market price to earnings ratio valuations  fell to as low as seven times for context   companies in the S&P 500 today trade at PE ratios (31:17) of more than 21.5 on average which is   three times higher than valuations in 1921 as one  Banker told the Wall Street Journal in September   1921 scores of companies were selling below  working capital in the case of many companies   the shares are selling for less than the value  of the plants there are shares of copper mines   that are selling below what it would cost to  equip these respective mines one of the most   common bare Market aphorisms is that investors  should buy when the news is all bad at the point   of Maximum pessimism anyone following that (31:53) advice in 1921 though would have   missed out on the bull market of the  Roaring 20s as Napier says quote The   Wall Street Journal in the summer of 1921 was  teaming with news and well-informed opinion   that the economic contraction and with it the  bare Market in stocks was ending at one of the   greatest Market bottoms sentiment was generally  optimistic or at least not entirely dominated   by fear many saw the outlook for companies  improving and still chose to sell ignoring   the positive implications of an economic recovery (32:26) that sort of irrationality encapsulates   the type of behavior that drives markets  toward such a generational bottom in looking   at newspaper reports from the time Napier  found that one of the driving explanations   for why sentiment shifted in the stock market  was simply because Bears had reached a stage   where they refused to regard any development  as constructive as the Wall Street Journal at   the time wrote anyone who even Intimates that  a stock may go up is looked up with suspicion   such a condition usually marks the end of a (32:56) bare Market the timing for that quote   couldn't have been better it was published  just two days before the bottom news flow   became incrementally more positive around the  bottom and more tangibly the supply of socks   available for Lending was decreasing and thus  the cost of borrowing stocks was Rising what   that means essentially is that short sellers  were running out of shares to sell in their   bets against companies in fact while probably a  coincidence the exact day that the market bottomed   was also the day that the number of so being lent (33:28) at a premium Peak naturally as short   sellers ran out of ammunition so did the biggest  headwind to stocks recovering another indication   people used at the time I found interesting  relates to trying to assess whether ownership   of companies was being concentrated in the hands  of institutional investors on Wall Street or among   the general public one such bellweather was  the company us steel us steel was something   of a safe haven for the general public in  Good Times like the market boom of 1916   Wall Street ownership of the stock reached as (34:02) high as 58% as the masses piled into   more exciting names in 1921 as the general public  loaded up on shares of us steel during the bare   Market institutional investors stake in the  company felt to 23% so it was popular to try   and measure whether us Steels shareholder base  was shrinking which would mean investors in the   general public were no longer hiding in Safe Haven  assets and were diving into riskier opportunities   AT&T came to fill a similar role in  this period as well and with public   participation in both companies at (34:35) abnormally high levels in   the summer of 1921 that would have been as good  an indicator as any that the market was hitting   its bottom what's also interesting is that  while stock market prices bottomed in August   1921 corporate earnings still had another 37% to  decline before they hit a bottom in December the   recovery and earnings lagged considerably behind  the recovery in the stock Market in conclusion   when reflecting on the 1921 bottom Napier remarks  that US Stocks traded below fair value from 1917   to 1926 so how is one to know that 1921 (35:12) marked the opportune moment to   buy in he says growing demand for select Goods  like automobiles commodity price stabilization   improving economic news being ignored by the  stock market higher trading volumes on days   when the market rallied reductions in interest  rates as set by the fed and a rally in the bond   market all overlapped together for Discerning  investors to recognize that the tides were   turning the bad news for investors at this time is  that the next bare Market would be very different   and more vicious that brings us to the great (35:46) Market bottom of 1932 which is arguably   the most famous chapter in American Financial  history nearly 100 years later the stock market   crash of 1929 and the Great Depression are so  widely remembered for their devastating effects   from 1921 to 1929 the Dow Jones Industrial  Average Rose nearly 500% before plunging 89%   from 1929 to the bottom in 1932 89% in 3 years  that is just breathtaking not to fearmonger but   imagine checking your portfolio again  in 2027 and being down 90% from today   it's not likely but it has happened (36:31) before I also think this period   is just so interesting to people because it really  marked a shift in American society it was a major   step from the 19th century and earlier values  into a world that more closely resembles our   modern one today really for the first time in the  1920s America unequivocally embraced consumerism   Americans piled into cities advertising went  mainstream and Automobiles Unleashed a new wave   of productivity and possibility it  was a time of radical transformation   and because of that Napier argues the 1929 (37:06) to 1932 period disproportionately   lingers in people's minds he writes quote  undo focus on this one period has created   a misleading impression of bare markets while  often cited as the classic example of a bare   Market it may be more the exception than  the rule and thus have misled a generation   of investors while we know that that the market  also bottomed in 1921 it took about 3 years for   a great bull market to form by 1925 stocks had  risen 87% with an average dividend yield of 6.  (37:41) 4% since 1921 however this was just  the beginning trading volumes would start to   go through the roof in 1925 and onwards as Stock  Investing went mainstream prices for a seat on the   nysse surged enabling you to either trade your  own funds directly or act as a broker tring on   someone else's behalf in 1924 a seat costs as  much as $115,000 but just 5 years later demand   to trade on the floor of the NYSC had pushed the  cost of a seat to as high as $625,000 while Calvin   kage's 1924 election Victory to become president (38:18) provided a catalyst for this epic bull   market thanks to his reluctance to break up  monopolies and his disain for taxes kage's   election was not underlying cause of the Bull  Run between 1925 and 1929 as is common with all   major bull markets says Napier this one can also  Trace its roots to two key factors technological   breakthrough and the increased availability  of credit on the technology front rapidly   expanding access to electricity was changing  daily life for Americans adoption was slow   for several decades before picking up seam (38:54) in the 1920s from 1921 to 19 19 29   the percentage of American homes with wired  electricity Rose from 37.8% to 67.9% here is   an incredible stat by 1929 the US produced  more electric power than the rest of the   world combined electricity hugely boosted  productivity which dampened the effects of   inflation while also creating a surge in spending  as Americans bought up new electrical products   America's electrification was a major Boon to  corporate earnings and therefore a fundamental   reason stock prices Rose so high in the (39:33) 1920s as electricity enabled Machinery   to become far more efficient Corporate America  accured a growing slice of national wealth during   this decade Napier estimates that earnings per  share for listed companies Rose something like   45% over the course of the 1920s the gains  in productivity during this decade were so   huge in fact that we could produce so much  more of everything from textiles to house   old Furnishings food and building materials  that aggregate price indexes largely fell   that's right despite undergoing one of (40:06) America's biggest economic booms   which would normally be thought to be inflationary  for prices the 1920s were a deflationary decade   the supply of goods more than outpaced the  considerable growth in consumer demand one   of the most notable growth products enabled  by electricity was the radio sales of radios   over the decade Rose almost 30 fold As Americans  bought up radios and other appliances Consumer   Credit played a more important role in  driving the economy and the 1920s bull   market installment credit went mainstream in (40:40) 1919 in part thanks to General Motors   which began offering financing options to  help middleclass families afford cars the   percentage of households buying cars on credit  more than tripled from 1919 to 1929 by 1927 85%   of all furniture sales were made on credit 80%  of phonograph sales 75% of washing machine sales   and more than half of sales for things like  radios pianos sewing machines vacuum cleaners   and refrigerators sales on credit especially  for consumer goods magnified the economic   upturn by increasing spending but also increased (41:18) the risk of greater than normal defaults   during a recession even though interest rates  were not particularly low during the 1920s boom   new forms of credit still emerge to capitalize  on the major changes occurring in society the   point being Bubbles and excesses can still  occur under moderate monetary conditions   that is not to say the Federal Reserve wasn't  active though World War I invigorated the FED   to take a greater role in economic management  and through the 1920s investors came to see   it as a more permanent fixture intervening in (41:50) markets as gold flowed in from abroad   into America's booming economy the FED sought  to raise interest rates and tight in Monet   AR policy hoping to curb some of the excessive  speculation that was taking place in the second   half of the decade the challenge the Fed was  grappling with was that although the US stayed   on the gold standard after World War I most  of the world temporarily abandoned it by 1925   the US held 43% of the world's gold reserves  and managing outflows back to the rest of the   world was of critical importance as countries (42:23) eventually resume the gold standard the   decision on which exchange rate to use when rep  begging their currency to Gold would ultimately   be political and the FED worried that countries  might intentionally undervalue their currencies   to give their exports and advantage that would  disadvantage American companies in selling their   goods on the global stage and potentially  lead to Major outflows of gold from the US   the fed's contingency plan to prevent major gold  outflows as countries return to the gold standard  (42:51) was to proactively tight in monetary  conditions as I say which effectively means   raising interest rates in if not for the fed's  interventions credit would have been even cheaper   in the 1920s and could have fueled an even bigger  boom and bust or a bus may have come several years   earlier at least you could also argue that the  fed's efforts to stem the outflow of gold from   the US to countries in desperate need of gold  helped create the international economic crisis   we know as the Great Depression during this (43:21) time the FED also sought to crack   down a loans seem to be more speculative than  productive that is loans on on Wall Street to   enable the purchase and sale of financial assets  rather than lending toward producing real things   in the economy a split developed among Federal  Reserve board members over whether to try and   directly punish Banks making too many Loans  To Wall Street by 1928 unrelenting surges   and the stock market made it clear that some  sort of action was needed and as of 1929 20%   of all loans in the US banking system were to (43:54) stock Brokers that is actually one of   the crazy easiest statistics I've ever heard a  truly unprecedented amount of money was being   channeled into buying stocks on credit the  number of Americans who own stocks jumped   40-fold from 1913 to 1929 increasing from  half a million to 20 million the FED Drew   up a list of 100 Banks it wanted to pressure for  making excessive loans to Brokers on Wall Street   but in reality funds were flowing in from all  over the world to fund The Lending boom on Wall   Street and plenty of non-banks were lending funds (44:27) too the fed's efforts to stem speculative   lending were too little too late by July 1929  the upward climb in interest rates was showing   its first signs of affecting the economy  but stocks would not respond for another   few months to the extent that higher interest  rates were slowing speculative activity on Wall   Street it was only because the real economy  was feeling the effects where they fed had   started as an organization meant to serve  as the lender of Last Resort its policies   were now making and breaking wall Street's (44:59) ups and downs elsewhere around the   world countries slipped into economic decline  earlier than the US that happened in Australia   and the Netherlands as early as 1927 and in  1928 countries like Germany and Brazil were   slumping too while much of the world tried to  adhere to the gold standard still America's   grip on the world's gold reserves and the  seemingly never-ending flow of capital to   Wall Street from abroad was like a choke hold  on the global economy through 1929 it became   increasingly clear that either the gold standard (45:30) would break or the US economy would have   to fall off as foreign countries could  no longer afford to buy American Goods   either outcome looked problematic and violent  gyration hit stocks in September and October of   1929 the Dow Jones Industrial Average peaked on  September 3rd 1929 and fell 32% by October 28th   by November stocks had fallen by nearly 50%  what spark the decline in markets remains Up   For Debate but there is agreement on why the  sell-off was so Fierce the unwinding of such   spectacular bull market excesses would inevitably (46:08) have resulted in a painful hangover for   example a boom in early versions of the first  mutual funds was never going to be sustainable   700 investment trusts were created over a  three-year period managing over three billion   doar at the time many of the investors managing  these funds indulged a variety of manipulative   practices like making concentrated bets  on a liquid stocks to significantly bid   prices Higher by April 1930 you could have  been forgiven for thinking that the market   might recover just as quickly as it had sold off (46:42) stocks had recovered around 52% of their   losses and were back at levels seen in early  1929 unfortunately anyone who had believed the   market had regained its footing would have been  subjected to a further 86% decline in the Dow   Jones Industrial Average before it bottomed in  July 1932 what made this bare Market unique was   that it all coincided with a collapse in the  banking system the Panic of 1907 saw a number   of bank failures that eventually led to the  creation of the Federal Reserve but the FED   could not stop the wave of bank failures that (47:15) would come between 1929 and 1932 by   early 1931 the stock market selloff wasn't hugely  worse than in 1907 or between 1919 and 1921 so   so it was plausible that the worst may have been  over as bank failures piled up though so did the   damage to the economy in November and December  of 1930 over 600 Banks had been suspended and   one of the more crucial bank failures what you  might called this generation's Layman Brothers   moment came with the bank of the United States  going under this was a bank founded in 1791  (47:51) with over 400,000 depositors concentrated  in New York City which made for the largest bank   failure in American history up until that point  in time while failures at small Banks focused on   lending to Farmers didn't really raise systemic  concerns the bank of the United States's collapse   did Americans raced to withdraw money from Banks  which is what turned the recession of 1930 into   the depression of 1931 and 1932 on the other  side of the pond a collapse in Austria's largest   private bank spurred a panic in Hungary which (48:23) created a run on banks in both that   country and Germany shortly thereafter with  US Banks Assets in Austria Hungary and Germany   Frozen this put further strain on American  Banks balance sheets total deposits in the   US banking system declined some 15% reducing  deposits Sue Nationwide levels not seen since   1924 the US was hit by two separate banking  crisis in the same year which was all the   more painful after many had come to believe that  such banking crisis were no longer possible thanks   to the creation of the Federal Reserve for (48:57) context on that here's a quote from   the US Secretary of the Treasury in 1928 he  says there is no longer any fear on the part   of the banks or the business community that  some sudden and temporary business crisis May   develop and precipitate a financial Panic we  are no longer the victims of the vagaries of   the business Cycles the Federal Reserve System  is the antidote for money contraction and credit   shortage so prominent government officials  believed we had defeated the business cycle   and beliefs like that that made the opposite (49:28) inevitable for Generations people have   looked for and wrongly embraced methods  for supposedly taming the business cycle   2008 was our 21st century reminder that this is  just not possible as other countries like the   United Kingdom abandoned the gold standard fear  spread that the US could do the same prompting   depositors to try and withdraw as much gold out  of the banking system as they could in the six   months from August 1931 to January 1932 over 8  00 Banks would fail and suspend operations in 6   months that was as many banks as had failed in (50:04) the entire decade before a handful of   approaches were taken to try and turn things  around the National Credit Corporation was   launched to provide loans to Banks whose  assets were deemed to be too low quality to   be collateral at the Federal Reserve and in early  1932 the Reconstruction Finance Corporation was   created to provide loans to Banks and railroads  while there was some reason for optimism in   early 1932 the stock market would still decline  another 54% before bottoming in July reflecting   on the 1932 bottom Napier says there are (50:38) many ways that 1921 stands out from   other major bare Market bottoms the most important  difference is the pace at which equities moved   from overvalued to undervalued in 1921 Equity  prices became extremely cheap primarily because   stock prices moved sideways while the economy and  corporate earnings had had grown considerably in   1929 stocks were heavily overvalued and only  a sharp correction could bring prices back   into line yet such a sharp correction to  undervalued is the outlier in most of the   bare markets neb has studied across the past (51:12) few hundred years of financial history   most bare markets He suggests are more similar to  the 1921 example where long periods of downward   drifting inflation adjusted valuations give way to  a final slump that marks the bottom he writ quote   because the 1929 to 1932 bar Market looms so large  in the investment psyche we still assume that this   is the model for all bare markets however this  bare Market is very much the exception in terms of   the development of real value for investors in the  stock market bare markets where three-year price  (51:46) declines make overvalued equities cheap  are the exception and not the rule at its peak in   1929 US Stocks were trading at a normalized price  to earnings ratio of roughly 31. six times and   fell to his lows 10 times in 1932 calculated using  a 10year rolling average for earnings the Market's   price to earnings ratio in July 1932 was almost  70% below its average from 1881 to 1932 where   investors had placed a premium on owning stocks  in 1929 given the infinite possibilities of the   future by mid 1932 many stocks were trading at (52:23) a 50% discount to their hard assets   evidence that the market had bottomed came  when a Third Banking crisis hit the country   in 1933 yet stocks did not fall below their  mid 1932 levels improving conditions were a   false Dawn for Bulls in 1932 yet this is still  the best time to buy 1933's low was 22% above   1932's low even as the economy fell into an even  deeper crevice stocks failure to fall further   in this third crisis reveals in hindsight that  prices were so beaten down that even the biggest   bears could hardly justify continuing to sell (53:02) Napier finds that in 1932 like in 1921   the end of a bare Market is not characterized  by investors learning to ignore bad news instead   it's when sentiment BEC so pessimistic that  markets shrug off good economic news in the   same way stocks failing to sell off further  on bad news signal that a subtle shift had   begun to develop while the FED worked to  inject liquidity into Banks hoping that   they would turn around and start making more  loans something of a chicken and egg problem   developed Bankers wouldn't lend until they felt (53:33) the economy was recovering and without   more lending to facilitate consumption and  investment a recovery couldn't happen credit   expansion in the US economy would not truly  resume again until 1935 but stock investors   waiting for that to happen would have missed  the bottom in 1932 instead a better indicator   of the bottom was to follow trading volumes  throughout 1932 on days that the market was down   trading volumes were weak and falling suggesting  that lower prices were spurring less and less   action from investors similar to 1921 the (54:05) reemergence of financial professionals   and Wealthy individuals piling back into  stocks at the bottom in 1932 signaled the   pivot at the bottom not some huge upswing in  sentiment throughout the general public the   Market's biggest players returned to Kickstart  the next bull market ultimately the bare Market   in depression from 1929 into 1932 would set  the stage for FDR's New Deal and America's   abandonment of the gold standard but that  story is for another day with that that wraps   up today's discussion of early 20th century (54:39) Financial history which saw two of   the greatest Bottoms in stock market history  when stocks reached deeply undervalued levels   in very different ways what stands out to me the  most from digging through these chapters is that   doing so really fills in a lot of context for the  world we live in today maybe you don't think it's   all that valuable to try and accurately identify  the bottom of a bare Market I think that's fair   but I still find it valuable to understand  how we got to where we are today how early  (55:06) stock indexes were formed why we have  certain regulations in the banking system and FDIC   Insurance to protect against bank failures what  the world was like during the gold standard and   really just what was going on through investors  Minds during a turbulent periods including world   wars and massive booms powered by Automobiles  and electrification there's a lot more to to be   said about understanding both the bottom of 1929  and 1932 but I've painted a pretty decent picture   here of it for you if you're interested in diving (55:36) deeper into these two bare markets for   investing lessons and context on financial  history I'd really encourage you to check   out Russell Napier's book the anatomy of  the bear which I've linked to in the show   notes below with that you can also dive into  his explanations of the great Market Bottoms   in 1949 and 1982 which I didn't have time to get  to today I'll leave you with the following quote   from the fame stock Trader Jesse Livermore  who lived from 1877 to 1940 quote markets   are never wrong opinions often are that's all for (56:09) today folks I'll see you back here next   week a quality investment philosophy is like a  good diet it only works if it is sensible over   the Long Haul and you stick with it with the  point being that what ultimately matters is   one's decision-making process not short-term  results many investors get started with these   sort of half-baked philosophies on how they like  to invest they find some short-term success and   then constantly update that philosophy based on  random variations of their results so they end  (56:40) up chasing insights  with no Northstar guiding them