Investment Strategy: The podcast highlights the benefits of using Interactive Brokers' recurring investment tool, emphasizing disciplined investing through fractional shares and dollar-cost averaging.
Market Insights: Discussion on the ongoing rise in oil prices and the potential implications of a government shutdown on the financial markets.
Technology and Stability: John C. D'vorak shares insights on technology stability, noting the benefits of using older, stable systems over constantly updated ones.
Healthcare Commentary: Andrew Horowitz shares a personal anecdote about the inefficiencies and cost-driven nature of the healthcare system, highlighting issues with wellness visits.
Financial Management: The podcast touches on the challenges faced by athletes in financial management, particularly the risks of being exploited by managers and advisors.
Personal Finance: Anecdotes about personal financial decisions, such as avoiding unnecessary expenses and the importance of financial discipline, are shared.
Consumer Behavior: The hosts discuss consumer panic during shortages, using the example of the toilet paper shortage during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Podcast Dynamics: The episode reflects on the casual and humorous nature of the podcast, contrasting it with more formal financial shows.
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This episode is brought to you by Interactive Brokers and smart investors. Choose discipline over emotion. With Interactive Brokers innovative recurring investment tool, you can harness the power of disciplined investing and build your portfolio automatically with regularly scheduled investments. This powerful tool utilizes fractional shares trading to help you maximize the value of your investments, making it easier to dollar cost average into your positions. Whether you're looking to build wealth over time or want to be sure you're consistently taking advantage of market opportunities, the recurring investments tool can help. Learn more at ibkr.com/recurring. >> Hello and welcome to D'vorak Horowitz Unplugged, an hour-ong discussion of activity in the financial markets around the world featuring columnist John C. D'vorak and money manager Andrew Horowitz. This conversation is casual and unrehearsed. Let's join John and Andrew now. >> I'm John Cavorak. >> And I'm Andrew Horowitz. >> It's the 14th of October, 2025 show. >> Yeah, this is I'm still laughing as I listen to last week's and this week's show there. I'm serious. We're funny guys. Seriously, we we have a lot of >> compared to what? Well, I'm just saying, you know, you hear a lot of these, well, the financial shows out there where the guys are like, "Hi, I'm Andrew Horowitz." >> Oh, they're terrible. Most of them are they're unlistenable. >> First of all, a pet peeve of yours, mine, and Adams from No Agenda, of course, the No Agenda show has always been since since we all started, which was what it was the quality of the sound. And yes, over the years a lot of a lot of people have, you know, gone from the uh using what was it Garage Band with their laptop with the laptop microphone to something better. >> Yeah. But still phone. Yeah. The phone, >> right? The phones. But they still don't most of them can't do it. They just don't have the voice, the tonality. They don't have the We are We come across not only well professional, we are professionals, but we're we're very entertaining. I'm just saying. At least I think so. Yeah, I noticed. >> So, again, thanks to Ryan Rediski for putting this all together. This is awesome. U I loved it. It's just great to look back at this. You know, we start when you start to listen to this. We start out with the 88888 anniversary. >> Yeah, that's uh Yeah, I I can remember birthdays and but I can remember I can remember kind of keystone type numbers. So, uh, when I married Mimi, we married on 8888 because it was like I can remember that. And luckily, like my daughter Jay was born on on 711. >> Oh, there you go. >> Which was perfect at 7-Eleven as a matter. >> So, you don't remember your son's birthday at all? >> I have to struggle for that one, but I do remember the year because it's one of the great years in Bordeaux, 1985. Oh, and a and a great year for the D'vorak clan. >> 1985. >> Well, a son was born. Uh, you know, somebody had to have a son coming into the picture. Yeah. >> So, we talk about things like um equipment failures, which by the way, we haven't had a lot of John C. D'vorak equipment failures in a long time. I don't know if you upgraded your computer. I don't know what's going on, but we haven't had one of those things that you have to do these restarts and it's crazy the internet. We We also haven't been using Skype for years. Yeah, that probably has part of it. But the other thing is I have an old uh my podcasting rig is an old uh Intel Nuck. >> Oh. >> That has a uh fixed operating system that is I think is verboten to be touched or something because it it's never been it doesn't get upgraded. But it's it's one of the it's just one of the strange ones they gave to Intel. It's a long story, but the the fact is that since it hasn't been uh it's not getting upgraded all the time by Microsoft, it's stable. >> Yeah. Well, that's helpful. Definitely. Uh >> that's what I'm thinking. >> Yeah. So, let's get on. Let's listen to Host Stories Volume 2. And I think uh everybody in the audience is going to get a a couple of quick giggles and and fun out of this. >> Here we go. >> I did not say too many eggs. I said too manys. I heard that it's your anniversary month. >> It is my anniversary month. You know what I heard? It's your anniversary month. And you have a very peculiar date to remember. >> Yes. We were uh married at 8 8. >> What time? >> At 8:00 p.m. or 8 a.m. >> Uh I think it was 8 a.m. >> You were married at 8 a.m. >> Who gets married at 8 a.m.? So we could be married at 88 888 8888 at8. >> Now is that your lucky number? When you go to the casino and you see a uh a table or some kind of maybe roulette, do you play eight? >> No, but you know what? So I go to the horse track and there's a uh horse number eight named Married. I go I bet eight bucks on him and he goes through I watched I said here we go. And he came in eighth. There you go. It's It's just your number. It's something. It's magical. >> The key to a successful marriage. >> And here it is, the 9th. The 9th, I say, of August 2022. >> The 9th at 9. >> 99. >> It's one day past your ex >> 88 89 actually. But >> past your anniversary with your darling wife. What did you do? Did you do something nice? Flowers, candies, you know, some kind. Did you cook her something? Maybe a cheese wine, something? >> Yeah, I gave her the key to the wine celler. >> Oh, so that she can go down there and grab something for you if you were too lazy to do it yourself. >> Yeah, there you go. Now you're talking. This is what happens after 34 years. >> 34 years. Yeah. I just had 28, which is pretty amazing. >> Until you get to 50, then it's like, hey, what? >> Who? Who? Yeah. All right, let's talk about what's going on aside from that. Uh, I did lose a uh AirPod this week. I >> What does that mean? >> So, you know the AirPods from Apple? >> Oh, yeah. And they're the ones that aren't hooked to anything. So, when you lose one that ruined a pair is ruined. >> Well, I didn't really necessarily lose it. What happened was I did something reckless. I had the ever necessary Sunday night Chinese food. And I took You cooked it? >> No, I got it from a place. And they give you all those extra sauces that are in these little plastic um uh you know what do they call those? Canisters. >> Containers. >> Containers. Yeah. So I I went and I don't know why I did this. I don't usually do this. I took the box of all the leftovers and just threw it in the garbage pail outside and I was like h bad idea. It just spilled all over the bottom of the garbage can. All these brown sauces and all this junk. Yeah. >> And I couldn't deal with it. I'm not dealing with this. I said I'll do it tomorrow. >> So I went for a morning uh little exercise route. get back to there. I'm like, you know what? Maybe I should hit that garbage can. So, the garbage cans are pretty big. You know, you lean it over, you got to reach all the way in. I said, "Let me go clean out some of these things first, and then I'll take it to the back and I'll wash it out with a hose." So, as I'm reaching down there and jiggling around and getting stuff, the left AirPod pops out of my ear right into the sludge, the goo. >> So, I couldn't get it out right away. I tried. So, I finally got it out. I did a little wash down of it. And just let's say that's it. It's done. It does not work. >> You're not going to make those things so they don't get ruined at the drop of a hat. >> Uh yeah, this is they tell you there's a couple different ways. I tried everything. I put it in I I ripped open in a bag of that silica stuff. >> Yeah, good luck. >> I soaked it in that for a while. I used this vibration technique. >> Silica is good for water. >> Yeah, this definitely was more of a Chinese sludge. God knows what it does to your stomach. >> Let me ask you a question. >> Yes. Now, if that had happened on my garbage can, I would have let the garbage truck pick the garbage up, dump it in. The sludge is probably still be in the bottom, and I don't have to dig through anything and just wash it out. Then, I'm stupid. This is This is a learning experience. This is something I won't do in the future. >> Two purpose equipment. Most exercise equipment that I've owned, I've learned as I got older that turns into simply a place to put hangers and clothing. >> Yeah, I put USB cables. >> Right. You just you just you got to Could I get on the bicycle? Well, there's a lot going on there right now. And uh No, you can't. So, and then it uh you know, the craze was there. Everybody was looking to to lose weight and you could only bicycle in the house. But once you have >> stuck in the house. >> Yeah. Once you once you have the opportunity to get out of the house and bicycle around for those who are cyclingers, it's much more pleasant to be outside. >> Yeah. >> So, you also get clipped by a car. >> My how times have changed. >> You know, I know what it is. I mean, I was when I was a kid, I do stuff like that or trying to make some money. >> Yeah. You go wash cars, you have a little business. >> I had a I had two paper routes. Uh I used to sell things, too. Now, when you had your paper out, were you all geared up for that time of year where you slip that blank envelope inside the newspaper that you rolled up to give to the people so hopefully they'd give you back a tip? >> I never did that. >> What? How did you How did you collect uh the Did you get tips every time or something or waited to the end of the year? >> Went door to door to collect the money >> and they would tip you on top of the cost >> sometimes. Yeah. There are people >> I was never I was never one to uh to hound people for tips. >> No, >> I mean I mean it's I may have been >> things have changed. >> Yes, it's quite different now. But >> September 2022, what's your opinion, Andrew? >> So, my feelings are this. They're a bunch of two-toned zebraheaded slimecoated pimple farming parramsium brain munching on their own mucus. all suffering from Peter Pan envy and lude, crude, rude bag of pre pre- chewed food dudes lying, crying, spying, prying ultra pigs. >> That was a little >> How do you really feel? >> Yeah, that was a line from Peter Pan if you remember that. Uh >> yeah, it was written by George Carlin apparently. >> That could be that is that's probably true. >> Dressing for success. >> I was invited to shoot. >> Oh, have you done this before? >> No. You know me pretty well. Does it seem like a thing that I do? >> You fish a lot. It's it's not that far off this off the uh off the the image map. >> Yeah. But it's it's it's just not I mean I'm just hoping to come back with all my fingers, you know, and all I've shot, you know, I've done I've done sporting clays before, you know, the rabbits and the uh the the clay pigeons. >> Shot ski. >> Yeah. Same. You have? >> Isn't ski a little bit just the same thing? Isn't it a little bit different? Well, there's two there's the two main gun things of competition. They have skis and traps, >> right? And I don't know the difference necessarily. >> Well, the difference is the traps are well, one thing, the traps is really hard. Traps, the uh the clay pigeon is shot into the air away from you and it gets further and further away. >> Yes, I've done that. >> Ski the traps go the clay pigeon goes across in basically the same distance from you. So, I usually do trap and ski then because I do stations and one goes flying that way and one goes up to the left and you got to shoot both of them. >> Maybe. >> And then you got the rabbits that go along the ground. >> Yeah. I've never done that. That's the one only thing I haven't done. >> Yeah. So, I got this going on and everybody's I was invited to go with my good friend Paul tomorrow. So, we'll see what this is all about. It should be interesting. It's an early morning shoot. Uh and then uh we go up to this really cool uh shooting club in the middle of Florida and looks kind of posh to be honest with you. So I guess I'm sure there'll be plenty of drinking and fun. >> Yeah, >> it's going to be a good time. >> Nothing like shotguns and booze. >> What a combination. >> That's what I said. I'm hoping to just come home with all my fingers. That's my hope. That's that would be like a major victory for me. Um, but I am bringing, by the way, I do have my hunting outfit, my my uh drab pants, and my and my uh >> See, this doesn't surprise me. >> Yeah, I got to look good. I got to look good when I'm doing it. Come on. And and uh and I have my uh fall colored uh camouflage that I'll be wearing. >> Yeah, you look like a schmuck. >> Think twice before robbing Andrew Horowitz. >> I did shoot. I told you I was going. I shot a 79 out of 100. >> Okay. >> Pretty good. >> That's outstanding if you if if the way it's scored every time they sended a 100 clay pigeons up and you hit 79 of them. >> Yeah. Well, it's not all at once, but yes. I mean, it's all at once. I couldn't really >> All at once. See? >> No, but I did I shot that and I actually shot a uh a revolver with 410 cartridge in it or shotgun shell, whatever it is. Uh, four out of six. I was on fire. >> You got a revolver at a clay pigeon. >> I did. It's It has a It's a 45 slug or a 410. >> Yeah, Adam has one of these guns. >> It's called the Judge. >> Yeah, he's got the exact gun. They're usually chrome. >> Yep. I shot him. I shot the clay picture four times. And by the way, not only were you surprised about this, so was everybody else standing around me because nobody was hitting this thing. I hit it. >> Well, you were on the roll. I mean, once you get the hang of it, you know, it's made the >> the way you do it is you have to lead. >> Yes. >> Uh the shot and once you get the hang of doing that, you should be able to keep doing it. >> Yep. And then I won a gun on on top of everything else. >> You won a gun? >> I did in a raffle. There's a lot of guns up there. I won a Smith and Wesson 9 millimeter. >> Yeah. >> Mrs. Horowitz, the next Bionic Woman. >> Uh, last night I um I rolled over. So, yesterday was a rough day for me. Because you want to know why? >> Yeah. Why? >> I'll tell you why. Uh, my wife has surgery. She had hip replacement surgery. >> Oh, yikes. That's got to be put her That's That means you're going to be doing a lot of work. >> You know, you would think that. And I did buy her a wheelchair. So the when she has to do my laundry and stuff, at least you can get around. Okay. >> Oh, that's nice. >> Thank you. >> You're always thinking of her. >> She nice nice guy that I am. So what was interesting is what is interesting is that uh she has the surgery, get to the hospital, get to the hospital at 5:30 in the morning. They check her in, they go through the process, by 7:30, she's wheeled off into surgery. Who wants to have an operation when you're groggy? >> Well, just, you know, what's the difference? So, she gets wheeled off. First one, first surgery is is is the best. Supposedly, the surgery is only about an hour. 2 hours of initial recovery, 2 hours of secondary recovery. So, the surgery goes on time, the recovery is there. I am like deliriously falling asleep in my soup waiting there, right? Uh I only got like two hours sleep that night. And then uh I we we we I pick her up. I get her. She comes to the car cuz you know you go through a little bit of physical therapy and stuff and all that. I bring the car around. She gets up out of the wheelchair and walks in the car. I'm thinking it's pretty interesting. So then we get home and she's like, "Okay, I feel fine." Like, "What do you mean you feel fine?" "Well, I don't have any pain." I'm like, "That's cuz you got all this anesthesia in you and all this stuff." >> Yeah. They just pump Yeah. pumped it through all sorts of stuff. Whereas ice packs, let me get to the very just rip through this very quickly. Bottom line, a day later today, she's walking around just fine. A little bit of a a little bit of a limp, you know, a little bit of a thing, but no pain at all. Walking around. She's on the bicycle that with a with a physical therapist. They're doing exercise. They say she's like in her second week of recovery in the second day. >> So, you know what? >> She should have been a professional football player. >> So, here's the punch line. I'm returning the goddamn wheelchair. She could do my laundry without it. No, I'm kidding. >> The D'vorak literary lineage. >> Uh, actually, when I first mentioned your name, he didn't know who you were because I said, "Do you know John C. D'vorak?" Cuz John John C. D'vorak. John D'vorak. Oh, D'vorak from this place and that place and you know all that. I don't know. I've only known you as John C. D'vorak. So, I don't know what where he was left off the scene. I don't know where he got that from. He should know. Everyone should know me as John C. D'vorak. Maybe some other >> only know you as John C. D'vorak. >> Yeah. >> There there is no Is that a family thing? >> No, there's a bunch of different D'voraks or all writers. There's one that worked for the Kansas City Star. There's I think a John H or an M that is the number one writer. He used to write for High Times or he's maybe just John D'vorak. He write used to write for high times and he still does I think and he writes about propot policies. Nobody's ever mixed the two of us up. That's I've always found that interesting. >> That's interesting. >> And there's a metallurgist, very famous metallurgist, a vulcanologist. >> A lot of I don't know why his name is >> There's a keyboard there's a keyboard named after you. >> Well, that's Yeah, but that's that goes back to the >> 30s. I don't know. I'll have to talk to him again. >> That's not a John Devar. That's Augustus. >> Okay. I got a picture. Sure. I sent you a picture of me with the signed limmerick behind me. Did you see that? >> No, I did not. >> Well, if you check your text every once a month, you'll find it eventually. Okay. >> Okay, I'll check it out. >> Yeah. >> Is that an Indian in your pocket? >> I must share with you because I'm sure you're curious. What kind of boat am I going over in? You may be asking. >> I wasn't >> curious. >> Now I am. >> Now you are. I'm going over in a 68 foot motor yacht. A Lazaro Italian stylish motor yacht. I'll be sleeping in the forward state. >> This isn't your boat. >> No, this is my friend's boat. But he brings me because I cook for all the people the whole weekend. >> Ah, you're the chef. You're the chef. >> Yeah, I'm the uh >> I'm the I'm the uh >> what's the guy on the boat called? >> The guy in the galley. >> The galley cook. The cook. What's it called? There's a name for that guy. >> Uh well, anyway, that's >> Hey Siri, what is the cook on a boat called? Here's an answer from Wikipedia. A chief cook, often shortened to cook, is a senostist unlicensed crew member working in the steward's department of a merchant ship. >> There you go. You like my Siri voice? That guy? You got this some guy from Bombay? >> That's Abu. >> Oh god. My kids are like, "What's wrong with you?" I go, I'm trying to promote diversity. What the hell? Racist. >> It is not racist. It's diversity. When I do my exam, someone says I'm racist. >> It's not racist. It's a job. Abu. >> If you thought hockey was a rough sport. >> Do you have any athletes that take use your services? >> You know, over the years I have had athletes. It's my preference not to have athletes because I can't stand to watch them getting ripped off by their managers. I can't take it. I've seen I I had a ton of um I had some football players, but I had a bunch of hockey players, a bunch of hockey players for years, and I just I I I was watching what was going on with these guys. I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can't I can't be a part of this." I was afraid I was something was going to they were going to come after me. >> Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to get caught up in anything with this shady management. >> Bad people. Bad bad people. And you can't rip you can't rip the players away from the management. It's not like I could say, "Oh, we'll manage for you or something like that." You can't. So, we're just, you know, picked to do the the money man. >> They after they're retired, they still keep these these guys. >> Um, they they sometimes do, but, you know, still they're all wrapped up with the accounting firms that were brought in by the management that kickbacks for all the different stuff back to management. You know what I'm talking about? It's just it was a mess. It was a mess. and the stuff that they would recommend uh big insurance policies on young people and I mean you know paying like $150,000 a year for life insurance and I said why are you doing that and then unmarried players like what are you doing that for well it's really good investment I'm like the only thing is you're getting an 80% commission on this deal that's why this is a good deal and then I just couldn't take it >> that's a good story >> a rare behind the scenes moment Hey, John. >> Equipment failure. Sorry. >> Good morning. I had I called up I had helicopters circling your house. >> Yeah, >> I had Do you know how many people we have involved in this search and rescue program right now? >> A lot and I appreciate it. >> I had I was like, "Oh god, what if something happened? I don't I don't know what to do." So, I had feeling so I so I so I just bored the crap out of the audience. We're going to pick up. Well, >> yeah. You know what? You You're not boring. So, that didn't happen. We're going to pick up. We're going to talk about um we're just going over the market update right now. Government shutdown clock continues. Oil is still rising. And >> we have back to school. Some interesting things there. So, that's good news. >> You know, we were talking about back to school on the uh no agenda show. >> Can I just say look look at can I just say can I just say something? Look at how this man snaps into action. Just Johnny on the spot, right? Doesn't gets right in there. Doesn't need a warm-up or anything. If you want me to, I can re record the opening for you, too. And you just slap it on >> there. It's all good. I I I did a double take, so it's fine. I'll figure something out. They'll like it. You want to record it? >> Yeah, I'd love to. >> All right, hang on a second. >> Let's give some people insight into how these podcasts are made. >> You've been listening in on a conversation. It's September 2023. Do you have enough toilet paper? Did I tell you the story about during CO with my wife with the toilet paper, right? >> Remember that story? >> No. Yeah, I don't remember the story. I We have a lot of toilet paper stories in our family. >> So, my wife decides during co one day she brings home a case of toilet paper. What the hell? She goes, "I got to get more." Like, "What are you doing?" She goes, "They're going to run out." I'm like, "What? What do you Why do you need all this toilet paper? You need toilet paper. They're going to run out. It's You need to have toilet paper." I'm like, "Honey, take a breath, baby. We got these really cool bedets in our house. You know these these >> Oh, you don't even use toilet paper. >> Use a sheet of >> You use like one tissue to to like Oh, I know. But they everybody's buying toilet paper. So, I got I think I got to do it, too. I'm like, okay, everybody's getting all worked up into you. You You've called this what do you call it? Hysteria, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Mass hysteria. >> That's what caused a toilet paper shortage. I had some guy, luckily, one of the listeners to our shows is uh works at Charmin, the big company. Oh, >> and during the toilet paper shortage, she sent me a big box of these giant rolls, huge almost joke rolls of char. It's actually one of the their better grades, too. And and a and a holder. So, he had this I posted this in one some social media of mine. And it's just a big giant roll of toilet paper. It's about I don't know two or 2 and 1/2 ft 2 and 1/2 ft in diameter thing on this special holder which keeps it off the ground and uh it lasts about two months. Uh the one roll >> yet another job replaced by AI. >> People would have that job. A Fuller Brush, the Fuller Brushman would come by once a month. >> Yep. They said that uh >> sell you a brush. uh the the fuller brush, but also wasn't the fuller brush. Oh. Oh, and the uh the vacuum cleaner guys that would spill dirt on your carpet and plug it in and clean it up. >> Yeah. >> My dad always had the Fuller Brush. He he he used to love Fuller Brushes. They would come by the house and go through all the stuff. There's knives people that would come by. Good old What are the good times? Tupperware days, you know. >> Nowadays, you come by, somebody shoot you. >> Yeah. Exactly, >> John. absolutely nails the open. Let's join John and Andrew now. >> I'm John Cavorak. >> And I'm Andrew Horowitz. >> And here it is 1010 day uh on 2023. 1010 day being an very lucky day. Uh Chinese lucky day and this be a good time to send donations in because you're doing it on 1010. >> I have a question. >> You know you know about 1010 day. >> I I don't know but it's 103. Oh, next Tuesday will be 10 10 day. >> I'm waiting. I'm like waiting for the punch line here. I I was wondering like what am I missing? >> But it was >> I'm looking at the calendar too and it's like the three is lit up. But next Tuesday will be 10 10 day the Chinese lucky day. And that's the time to donate. >> I should be. >> So you got a week in weeks notice. So, uh, I don't know if you want to hear the story, but basically went down diving and, uh, there was a big wreck down there about 75 ft and I was just going to go about 65 and I I was having real trouble just clearing my right ear. I've always had that problem. And, um, my left ear was fine. And I'm getting down there. It's hurting, but I'm I'm slowly moving down. You know, you got to slowly get down there. So, I'm about 65 feet. I'm finally like, okay, you know what? Things are good. I'm I'm feeling all right. I I I kind of tilt my head to the left and I don't know what came over me, but I like tugged on my left ear for some reason. And whoosh, >> you broke the seal. >> Whoosh. I was like, "What the hell was that?" And I felt something in my throat a little bit. And I'm like, "Oh." It didn't really hurt, but it was just weird. And uh then I got instantaneous vertigo. Everything was spinning out of control. So, I'm like, "Okay, I've had this before." >> The worst, by the way. >> Yeah. And diving is not good. You don't want to You don't want to get into a situation where you have to throw up into your regulator. >> It's It's You have no choice, by the way. You'll do it. You don't take the regulator out of your mouth. So, uh, anyway, I came up from that dive. It was an okay dive. It was an interesting wreck. Although, to be honest with you, the wreck was only there for three months. There was no life on it. It was just like this boat sunk in the middle of the sand. >> Oh, brother. Okay, go on. And so then we went up and went, long story short, I got out of the water. I'm like, "Okay, let me clear this out of my ear. Whatever the hell's going on, figuring I got water way down in it, right?" So I put the uh usual drops in, you know, those alcohol drops that you just put in and you lean over. Oh my, that hurt. >> What'd you do? Bust bust your eardrum? I I didn't bust my eard drum, but I must have um I must have I must have just like like scarred a little bit, you know, like like nicked it so that there was some it was it was raw so the alcohol touching it. Then I decided to wait out about an hour, >> got back in the water. As soon as I dive in the water, I'm like, "Ow, that hurts." It wasn't the pressure. It was it was more so the um the salt water. So I have to go to Dr. Brown. I said, "Where's I got to see a doctor. Let me go see a doctor. Make sure I didn't screw anything up." So, here's how this doctor's meeting goes. Ready? And I I kid you not. I get to his office. He's an old English chap >> and shorts and and a and a plaid shirt. Can you see this? >> Shorts and a >> terrible terrible teeth, glasses. He takes out the ear looker thing. You know what I mean? The ear the >> Yeah, the thing. >> And and you know, usually usually sterile tips. No, this is this from the bag. >> No, just he spit on it and wiped it off. >> This from the bag. puts it in the right ear, goes, "Oh my." He says, "Right ear is a bit beaten up. Bit beaten up." He looks in the left ear. Oh yeah, this one's worse. He says, "It looks like you have some hickeys on there." I'm like, "Oh, I don't see any scarring or that you that you burst your eardrum." He looks at me. But that's not your problem, sir. What do you mean? The problem is you're fat. That's what he sounds like some sort of a joke. some sort of a Jewish joke. >> And I'm sitting there going, "What is he talking? What? Why? Why?" >> Like a second opinion. Well, you're ugly, too. I'm not kidding about that either. He says, "Look at your stomach." I'm like, "What's wrong with it?" He goes, "You're you're you're overweight." I'm like, "What does that do with my ear, sir?" And my son now getting pissed off. My son's in there and he's getting like, "Hey, doc." He's about to punch this doctor in the face. Okay. And uh he says, "Get on that scale." Like, "What? What do you mean get on the scale?" Anyway, he says, um, then he t then he takes his, uh, my blood pressure. He you seem very healthy, though. I'm like, I am healthy. I said, you know, you want to drop and do 10 right now, do 20. What do you want to do? You want to take take it to the ring? Dr. Brown, >> I'm burdened by technology. >> No, I haven't used a cell phone or a cellular phone since December of last year. I'm going the whole year without using one. >> What are you talking about? I call you on a cell phone. >> No, you don't. When's the last time you called me on? >> I text you. I text you. >> Yeah, you text me on a Google voice. >> Oh. Oh, I see what you mean. And how does Oh, I see what you mean. Then you go online and you look at the text from there. >> Yeah. >> And this is because Well, first of all, it began with why am I paying this? I don't use the phone that much. Why am I paying 30 or 40 or 50 bucks a month? It's like $600 a year. It's a waste of money. A uh B the uh it turns out that I don't need I don't like having these phones around on the car in particular because you tend to fall back on navigation tools which I'd rather I can navigate. I know how to get from point A to point B. And I notice everybody around me has got these phones telling them they've been in the neighborhood for 25 years and they're letting the phone tell them to take a left and a right. I find it to be somewhat disgusting. Scan school 101. >> About 10 years ago, maybe closer to 15 years ago, I got a speeding ticket. So, I took um I took a traffic um school or whatever it was so I'd get the thing taken off my record. >> Mhm. >> And the guy who was teaching it was really not teaching traffic school. He was teaching us the scams going on. And this was one of them. And then, of course, he was arrested >> uh right in the middle of the traffic school. And I we had to take it from somebody else. >> Why? Wait, wait, wait. Why was he arrested? >> I don't know. He was He was He All I know is I Here's how it went. I went to this kind of sketchy traffic school that was that was authorized in Chinatown, Oakland. >> Oh. >> It was in some sort of a building. There's this Chinese guy and he's not lecturing us about traffic, how to drive. if he's lecturing us about the scams of the insurance companies and how you h how the point system really works, how you get on your license and all these things you can't do and you shouldn't do and you have you better stop at a stop sign and he was it just went on and on with all this this crazy information. I was thinking, "Wow, we went to lunch, came back, the guy was in handcuffs and they hauled him off." >> Wow. >> It's a true story. And it's like it's like what? And I and they they gave us all uh certificates, little pieces of paper. Here's you get your money back and then you have to find something else. Find some other traffic school. >> Wow. >> I got you got your money back. But it was like and I never did find out why this guy got pinched. >> Maybe. >> But that's where I found out about the insurance company's database and the fact that they keep tabs on everybody if you start jumping from company to company. They don't want that. John's laser beam focus >> and it's the 19th of December or this is Christmas. I think this would be considered Christmas week >> or the week before Christmas. >> Of course. Of course. And you did something >> over I believe isn't >> you did you did something very special for Christmas. >> What might that be? >> Uh something to do with a computer and uh a shiny round object. >> A Chinese round object and a computer. R. We just talked about this 30 seconds ago. >> A sh a I can't remember what that might be. >> Did you not tell me 30 seconds ago? You you you just did your first DVD in years. >> Oh, a sh Oh, I you mean a disc? >> Yes, I did. I thought you said Chinese round object Chinese round >> a Chinese round object. Am I thinking what is he talking about? Ben balls. I have no idea. >> Oh, going there, are we? >> Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the bus kill. >> So, you want to hear a really cool story in closing? >> Yeah. >> So, on last Friday, I was invited to a an event. It was the state of Broward County. It was his breakfast and uh there's like a thousand people there. Then they invited a keynote speaker up, guy named Will Gera. Who is Will Gada? Will Gadera is a guy who is a restaurant tour, restaurant uh gent who actually took a restaurant in New York from a average brazerie, if you will, to the number one restaurant in the world. His name is Will Gadera. It's 11 Madison. You've heard of that restaurant? >> I've been to 11 Madison. >> Okay. So, you know, you know what I'm talking about, right? >> Yeah. >> They've actually gone through >> that's the number one restaurant in the world, but Okay. Okay. Number one, three James Beard Awards, three um uh what do you call it? Uh >> Micheland stars, >> three Michelin stars and uh told the story of how he got there and what happened. One of the fascinating things they did, if anybody's watched some of these shows like the Bear, they did things more to make people happy that to make people remember they'd been there. For example, there was a couple there that foodies and they were traveling around and the waiter overheard they were there and they had the most wonderful weekend. They're leaving tomorrow. Oh my gosh. of all the food we had, the one thing we never had and we've never had is a New York City hot dog. Well, he hears this. He runs out to a cart, grabs a couple of hot dogs, comes back to kitchen, goes to the three sharp Michelin chef, and says, "I want to serve this." And they're like, "Are you kidding?" >> Long story short, serves it. Makes the night of these people. Stories like this go on and on and on. >> So, so, so let me get this straight. So, these people are in New York. >> Yes. to go to this restaurant. >> Yes. >> And there in New York where those those hot dog carts are everywhere. >> Yeah. >> You can't go three blocks without running into one. >> Yeah. >> And they couldn't bring themselves to just buy a damn New York hot dog right there on the spot at the cart and eat it there like everybody normal people do. They had to go in the restaurant and moan about it and be overheard by an eavesdropping waiter who then took care of their their need for this hot dog. This is a bogus story. You deflated the whole thing. You killed it. Just telling you over the top, crazy. The book is called Unreasonable Hospitality. Now, here's where it gets interesting. I was very much >> I I thought it was cool. I I thought his delivery was like a TED talk. It was very polished, by the way. And and I thought it was a very great way of looking at service and it was very inspiring and all that. I'll fast forward till Monday. I'm in the airport. I happen to be early morning. I had a little while to to to kill before my plane and I'm wandering through this store and I see the book on the bottom shelf under the best sellers and I take a look and I grab the book. I open the book. He signed that book while he was in the airport on Friday. He put the date and he signed it and he just put it back on the shelf. How weird is that? Uh, well, which reminds me of a story. It is weird, but I like to go into if I have a chance, I'm in somebody's library, for example, I'll pull out a book and sign the author's name to it. >> Oh gosh. >> With a >> He just killed this also. >> Although Although I know it was him because it was the same date that he was in town. I know that for a fact. >> Okay. But typically you you this is a good gag for anybody out there. You you nobody's around. You got see this guy and you find a book that's by by a contemporary author. You pull the book out and you sign the name of the author on the book on the on the title page usually and uh and you write a a little thing like best gay experience I've ever had. >> You're a terrible man. You're a terrible man. and then sign it and just put it back. >> Very nice. Well, on that we're going to say goodbye. >> A solid case for encryption. >> I'm reminded again, I hate to be keeping telling these stories, but Radio during the early days of analog cell phones, cell phone technology. Uh, RadioShack had a scanner. It was like just a general scanner for radios. And all you and but there was this underground methodology. If you soldered a joint inside the device, it turned into a cell phone scanner. So you could listen in on phone calls. >> So you just turn it on and you next thing you know, you're listening in on phone calls. We made a kind of a party out at this for let's say two or three years at the house. We'd have dinner and turn this thing on and listen to people talking and you It was just mostly drug deals. >> Yeah, it was drug I can remember these these calls. Drug deals. Uh it depends on the hour, but during dinner it was drug deals and guys uh calling their uh mistress to say they get they can't come over tonight. They're going to the wife is getting suspicious. You get a lot of that. >> Wait, how come you didn't get any normal phone calls? You always always had these crazy phone calls. >> I would say 90% of the phone calls were not normal. They were all this. Oh, the last one if we did it during the day, uh it was mostly guys calling their secretary to get just before Google getting directions on how to get to point A or to point B. So, there's a lot of calling to get directions, a lot of hookers, uh, and some and a lot of lewd calls, and then there was always the couple stock market guys chatting, and they would, uh, the conversation, they'd click, they change cells, and this thing wouldn't do that. >> So, you'd always miss out on the stock tip, which was very annoying. But then when they went digital, this is all moot. >> Mhm. >> Healthcare in the United States of America. You know, I went to the Did I tell you a story that I went to the doctor the other day for a health check? >> Yeah. >> And uh I went in and I it was for a uh wellness checkup, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Did I tell you the story? >> No. >> So, I go in for a wellness checkup. This is true. And uh I get I first I I wrote them on their little my chart thing and I'm like, "Look, I'm coming in Friday. It's the Friday before. How about I have an idea. How about you order blood tests? I'll take them on Tuesday. By the time I'm in there, you'll get them. This way, you can figure out what's going on. You don't have to say to me, you know, let's get some blood tests when I'm there, and you'll come back and we'll look at them together. >> Yeah. >> So, they're like, "Oh, good idea." So, I got the blood test, everything was fine. I get there. I say to the uh the the doctor, I would like to talk about uh I have like four items that I'd like to talk about. Oh, no. Is it is it a problem? I'm like, "Well, yeah, kind of." You know, I got like my right calf is bothering me. My ear's a little issue. Um, no, no, no, no. Can't talk about that. Why not? This is a wellness visit. I'm like, "Okay, I'm here. If you want to talk about the problems," That's what they said. Issues, whatever she called them, issues, problems. If you want to talk about that, we could do that, but we can't do the wellness visit. I'm like, "I don't I don't understand." I said, "I don't think I really want to understand, but okay. >> I understand." Well, yeah. You you understand because they wanted to charge me again for another visit. >> Yeah. It's probably >> it's a scam. The whole thing is the whole system is this way. >> Yeah. It's it's it they they they they have a certain code for wellness and that's all they can put in for that. They can't collect on top of for the other stuff. Terrible. It's terrible. So, it was just I I snuck in a few questions. Anyway, >> the whole country the whole country stuck with this. >> It's just awful. I mean, honestly, there was What did they do with the wellness? She did the she like touched my abdomen and and like you know she she she did the she like you can breathe in and out with the stethoscope a couple of times you know peered in my ear nothing to say about anything you know what else she do nothing else was it oh she tapped my knee like I don't know what tapping the knee did you know the old reflex thing like from the 1950s >> yeah what the what was the point >> unbelievable >> fun family memories >> so is this Uh, summertime's a good time of year for you. >> If I'm up there, I'm in California at the moment, >> right? But, you know, that whole area, it's cool, it's nice, it's pretty. Down here, it's humid and hot and disgusting. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you know, it's like I remember I grew up in New York, so it was like you got that >> Well, that's pretty hot and disgusting. >> Well, it's just disgusting. But actually, New York wasn't a disgusting, let's be very honest, New York when I lived there was not a disgusting place. I lived up there till 87. It isn't what it is now. It it got twisted. >> And um I remember very distinctly the summertime was uh you know, Memorial Day would start the summer time. My dad would get out his white shoes and his white pants. >> And did Do you have white shoes? White pants? >> I never had white shoes and white pants. >> Patent leather white shoes with the white jeans and the white pants. >> Yep. That was it. >> And then uh we put him away uh after Labor Day and the signal of when school started was the Jerry Lewis teleathon. >> That that's how we kind of lived through the summer. >> Those days are over. >> Way over. >> Less fond family memories. >> Give for little Johnny and little Drew. Give Give to uh to to help uh >> you Drew when you were a kid. Andy. >> Andy. >> Yep. >> Well, you don't even like if you if anyone calls you Andy, you get irked. >> I get irked. >> They used to call me Andy. Um Drew. Every once in a while when I was young, my grandmother once called me Krisco, which was I guess I was gaining weight. It was fat in the can. Would you stay in the bathroom a long time? What's >> No, fat in the can. Fat in the butt. Like my butt was getting big, I guess. Just call me Krisa. >> Nice. Nice, grandma. Thanks. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll see you again soon. >> Reaffirming. >> Yeah. Birthday. Birthdays and holidays only. Thank you. You know, >> the important question is, did you remember to refill the guest tank? >> I remember one time I was in Arizona and I wrecked a wrecked rental car. >> I rear ended somebody and the car was totaled. I I still drive it around after I, you know, forced the hood down and locked it in place. Curiously, the uh the airbag never went off, which I thought was I think they disconnected it just in case. So, you know, so what happens to the passenger and I drove it in, you know, to drop it off. It's all ruined and it there was like nothing. They didn't even like they didn't even care. Okay, I see you got into an accident. Okay. And then they I signed off and it was the end. I never heard back. >> I wonder if Evander Holiffield tells his famous D'vorak and Horowit story. >> You ever get up close and personal with these guys, any of these fighters? >> Well, the closest I've ca came to one of them, we my wife and I went to see the Vander Holiffield fight when he was a cruiserweight and he was taking on this guy named Tilman who he knocked cold. Uh, and he walked right by us and he is just a back. Yeah, that guy's a nasty guy. A nasty looking guy. He looks like he just wants to beat somebody up. >> I had the same experience with the same guy. >> Oh, >> I was at the Bullen Bear Club in New York City in Manhattan and uh I I was leaving and I walked up the stairs. It's like three stairs to get out the front door onto the street. And as I get up the second stair, someone calls my name to say goodbye to me. I turn around and I say, "Oh, bye." I turn back around to walk out out and like literally in my face is a Vander Holyfield face to face. >> And I look at him and I'm like, "Oh my." And he has this like leathery big strong face. Like his face itself hurt me just looking at it. It was >> Yeah. His fa he's got a he has a dynamite boxer's face. >> Oh. And I was just like I was petrified. I was >> petrified. I would ask for his autograph. >> I couldn't say anything. I'm like, "Sorry, [Laughter] >> well, I did. Well, I have to say this. I I did have actually a long conversation with uh with Joe Frasier." >> Oh, >> Smok and Joe. >> Smoking Joe. >> Yeah. There was an event at uh one of the ComX of shows years ago and he had a little thing he was doing and he and he was up on a on a kind of a platform and I I went up on this platform even though I had to kind of skip over a a barrier to get there and I when I went up there because I want to get some photos there was there was Frasier and he was standing there and so we had a chat >> and I and he signed a bunch of stuff for me. He wouldn't sign any gloves because he the gloves were the wrong brand. and he couldn't touch him. Uh he had this, you know, some I guess he couldn't sign somebody else's brand of glove, >> right? >> And uh he was a great guy. >> Frasier. Joe Smok and Joe. >> Smoking Joe Fraser. >> December 2023. It's a scam. >> Is it is it less costly to go through the Panama Canal than it is all the way around? That's the question. >> Well, that's what they're doing then. They're they're gouge. It's a gouge. So if if they're doing that, there's no reason for people not to just go around >> besides the time. >> They could go around, but it just takes time and money and with the cost of fuel and the rest of it. The canal was put there for a reason. So you didn't have to go around and it's expected to become well, it's going to cost you this much to go around. That's what we're going to charge you to go through the canal. Then what's the point? >> Yeah, I guess. Have you Have you done it? >> And then there's also a thought that the Chinese are getting a different rate, which wouldn't surprise me, by the way. >> It's possible. Have you gone through the canal? >> No, you have though. >> I've done I've gone twice. >> Oh, I didn't know you have gone through twice. >> I went through once halfway and once full way. >> What do you mean halfway? Where they drop you off in the middle of the >> This place This place you can get off. Yeah, >> it was one was on >> What would you do after you got off? >> I forgot what we did. We went somewhere. I got on a bus and I went to a bar or something. >> Wow. >> Well, no. The No, no. When I say the canal got me off this canal, >> you know the canal go there's a long canal. There's a long it's not just one thing. It's multiple multiple multiple locks. >> Yeah, I I understand that. >> So I went once on a cruise ship with my wife and we went through the whole whole thing and it was a whole it was like a half a day or more. It was a whole day I think. The other one is something you could take a bus and ride back and then you know just go through and get the feel of it. Now, the first one I went on with my son, >> it was like a It's like you have a like a like an amusement ride. >> It's like a taste of the canal. >> A taste of the canal. >> Well, you know, I forgot all about the fact that you had this panic in the house about the toilet paper during the co thing. It's like reminds me of my mom every time she'd, you know, she would she think Chinese were stealing all the toilet paper and so she had to go buy a bunch of it. By the way, great idea that we had a plug for the Too Many Eggs book. Too many eggs.com. You can get a free PDF. I thought I'd plug it again. >> Oh, there you go. You know, and then uh I got to tell you something. Um Ryan picked up a bunch of the times that you called the date wrong on the open of the show and and I'm sitting there going, >> I thought that was amusing since I it's impossible. I I look at the calendar while I'm doing that bit. There's several several times that we just like, uh, are we doing something different today? I don't >> Oh, yeah. Well, actually, yeah. Last week I was off by a day. >> Yeah. Well, >> anyways, >> not that you mentioned, not last week, but a couple shows ago. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. So, that's the end of this. 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DHUnplugged #773: Best Of Us (2)
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```html- Investment Strategy: The podcast highlights the benefits of using Interactive Brokers' recurring investment tool, emphasizing disciplined investing through fractional shares and dollar-cost averaging.
- Market Insights: Discussion on the ongoing rise in oil prices and the potential implications of a government shutdown on the financial markets.
- Technology and Stability: John C. D'vorak shares insights on technology stability, noting the benefits of using older, stable systems over constantly updated ones.
- Healthcare Commentary: Andrew Horowitz shares a personal anecdote about the inefficiencies and cost-driven nature of the healthcare system, highlighting issues with wellness visits.
- Financial Management: The podcast touches on the challenges faced by athletes in financial management, particularly the risks of being exploited by managers and advisors.
- Personal Finance: Anecdotes about personal financial decisions, such as avoiding unnecessary expenses and the importance of financial discipline, are shared.
- Consumer Behavior: The hosts discuss consumer panic during shortages, using the example of the toilet paper shortage during the COVID-19 pandemic.
- Podcast Dynamics: The episode reflects on the casual and humorous nature of the podcast, contrasting it with more formal financial shows.
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This episode is brought to you by Interactive Brokers and smart investors. Choose discipline over emotion. With Interactive Brokers innovative recurring investment tool, you can harness the power of disciplined investing and build your portfolio automatically with regularly scheduled investments. This powerful tool utilizes fractional shares trading to help you maximize the value of your investments, making it easier to dollar cost average into your positions. Whether you're looking to build wealth over time or want to be sure you're consistently taking advantage of market opportunities, the recurring investments tool can help. Learn more at ibkr.com/recurring. >> Hello and welcome to D'vorak Horowitz Unplugged, an hour-ong discussion of activity in the financial markets around the world featuring columnist John C. D'vorak and money manager Andrew Horowitz. This conversation is casual and unrehearsed. Let's join John and Andrew now. >> I'm John Cavorak. >> And I'm Andrew Horowitz. >> It's the 14th of October, 2025 show. >> Yeah, this is I'm still laughing as I listen to last week's and this week's show there. I'm serious. We're funny guys. Seriously, we we have a lot of >> compared to what? Well, I'm just saying, you know, you hear a lot of these, well, the financial shows out there where the guys are like, "Hi, I'm Andrew Horowitz." >> Oh, they're terrible. Most of them are they're unlistenable. >> First of all, a pet peeve of yours, mine, and Adams from No Agenda, of course, the No Agenda show has always been since since we all started, which was what it was the quality of the sound. And yes, over the years a lot of a lot of people have, you know, gone from the uh using what was it Garage Band with their laptop with the laptop microphone to something better. >> Yeah. But still phone. Yeah. The phone, >> right? The phones. But they still don't most of them can't do it. They just don't have the voice, the tonality. They don't have the We are We come across not only well professional, we are professionals, but we're we're very entertaining. I'm just saying. At least I think so. Yeah, I noticed. >> So, again, thanks to Ryan Rediski for putting this all together. This is awesome. U I loved it. It's just great to look back at this. You know, we start when you start to listen to this. We start out with the 88888 anniversary. >> Yeah, that's uh Yeah, I I can remember birthdays and but I can remember I can remember kind of keystone type numbers. So, uh, when I married Mimi, we married on 8888 because it was like I can remember that. And luckily, like my daughter Jay was born on on 711. >> Oh, there you go. >> Which was perfect at 7-Eleven as a matter. >> So, you don't remember your son's birthday at all? >> I have to struggle for that one, but I do remember the year because it's one of the great years in Bordeaux, 1985. Oh, and a and a great year for the D'vorak clan. >> 1985. >> Well, a son was born. Uh, you know, somebody had to have a son coming into the picture. Yeah. >> So, we talk about things like um equipment failures, which by the way, we haven't had a lot of John C. D'vorak equipment failures in a long time. I don't know if you upgraded your computer. I don't know what's going on, but we haven't had one of those things that you have to do these restarts and it's crazy the internet. We We also haven't been using Skype for years. Yeah, that probably has part of it. But the other thing is I have an old uh my podcasting rig is an old uh Intel Nuck. >> Oh. >> That has a uh fixed operating system that is I think is verboten to be touched or something because it it's never been it doesn't get upgraded. But it's it's one of the it's just one of the strange ones they gave to Intel. It's a long story, but the the fact is that since it hasn't been uh it's not getting upgraded all the time by Microsoft, it's stable. >> Yeah. Well, that's helpful. Definitely. Uh >> that's what I'm thinking. >> Yeah. So, let's get on. Let's listen to Host Stories Volume 2. And I think uh everybody in the audience is going to get a a couple of quick giggles and and fun out of this. >> Here we go. >> I did not say too many eggs. I said too manys. I heard that it's your anniversary month. >> It is my anniversary month. You know what I heard? It's your anniversary month. And you have a very peculiar date to remember. >> Yes. We were uh married at 8 8. >> What time? >> At 8:00 p.m. or 8 a.m. >> Uh I think it was 8 a.m. >> You were married at 8 a.m. >> Who gets married at 8 a.m.? So we could be married at 88 888 8888 at8. >> Now is that your lucky number? When you go to the casino and you see a uh a table or some kind of maybe roulette, do you play eight? >> No, but you know what? So I go to the horse track and there's a uh horse number eight named Married. I go I bet eight bucks on him and he goes through I watched I said here we go. And he came in eighth. There you go. It's It's just your number. It's something. It's magical. >> The key to a successful marriage. >> And here it is, the 9th. The 9th, I say, of August 2022. >> The 9th at 9. >> 99. >> It's one day past your ex >> 88 89 actually. But >> past your anniversary with your darling wife. What did you do? Did you do something nice? Flowers, candies, you know, some kind. Did you cook her something? Maybe a cheese wine, something? >> Yeah, I gave her the key to the wine celler. >> Oh, so that she can go down there and grab something for you if you were too lazy to do it yourself. >> Yeah, there you go. Now you're talking. This is what happens after 34 years. >> 34 years. Yeah. I just had 28, which is pretty amazing. >> Until you get to 50, then it's like, hey, what? >> Who? Who? Yeah. All right, let's talk about what's going on aside from that. Uh, I did lose a uh AirPod this week. I >> What does that mean? >> So, you know the AirPods from Apple? >> Oh, yeah. And they're the ones that aren't hooked to anything. So, when you lose one that ruined a pair is ruined. >> Well, I didn't really necessarily lose it. What happened was I did something reckless. I had the ever necessary Sunday night Chinese food. And I took You cooked it? >> No, I got it from a place. And they give you all those extra sauces that are in these little plastic um uh you know what do they call those? Canisters. >> Containers. >> Containers. Yeah. So I I went and I don't know why I did this. I don't usually do this. I took the box of all the leftovers and just threw it in the garbage pail outside and I was like h bad idea. It just spilled all over the bottom of the garbage can. All these brown sauces and all this junk. Yeah. >> And I couldn't deal with it. I'm not dealing with this. I said I'll do it tomorrow. >> So I went for a morning uh little exercise route. get back to there. I'm like, you know what? Maybe I should hit that garbage can. So, the garbage cans are pretty big. You know, you lean it over, you got to reach all the way in. I said, "Let me go clean out some of these things first, and then I'll take it to the back and I'll wash it out with a hose." So, as I'm reaching down there and jiggling around and getting stuff, the left AirPod pops out of my ear right into the sludge, the goo. >> So, I couldn't get it out right away. I tried. So, I finally got it out. I did a little wash down of it. And just let's say that's it. It's done. It does not work. >> You're not going to make those things so they don't get ruined at the drop of a hat. >> Uh yeah, this is they tell you there's a couple different ways. I tried everything. I put it in I I ripped open in a bag of that silica stuff. >> Yeah, good luck. >> I soaked it in that for a while. I used this vibration technique. >> Silica is good for water. >> Yeah, this definitely was more of a Chinese sludge. God knows what it does to your stomach. >> Let me ask you a question. >> Yes. Now, if that had happened on my garbage can, I would have let the garbage truck pick the garbage up, dump it in. The sludge is probably still be in the bottom, and I don't have to dig through anything and just wash it out. Then, I'm stupid. This is This is a learning experience. This is something I won't do in the future. >> Two purpose equipment. Most exercise equipment that I've owned, I've learned as I got older that turns into simply a place to put hangers and clothing. >> Yeah, I put USB cables. >> Right. You just you just you got to Could I get on the bicycle? Well, there's a lot going on there right now. And uh No, you can't. So, and then it uh you know, the craze was there. Everybody was looking to to lose weight and you could only bicycle in the house. But once you have >> stuck in the house. >> Yeah. Once you once you have the opportunity to get out of the house and bicycle around for those who are cyclingers, it's much more pleasant to be outside. >> Yeah. >> So, you also get clipped by a car. >> My how times have changed. >> You know, I know what it is. I mean, I was when I was a kid, I do stuff like that or trying to make some money. >> Yeah. You go wash cars, you have a little business. >> I had a I had two paper routes. Uh I used to sell things, too. Now, when you had your paper out, were you all geared up for that time of year where you slip that blank envelope inside the newspaper that you rolled up to give to the people so hopefully they'd give you back a tip? >> I never did that. >> What? How did you How did you collect uh the Did you get tips every time or something or waited to the end of the year? >> Went door to door to collect the money >> and they would tip you on top of the cost >> sometimes. Yeah. There are people >> I was never I was never one to uh to hound people for tips. >> No, >> I mean I mean it's I may have been >> things have changed. >> Yes, it's quite different now. But >> September 2022, what's your opinion, Andrew? >> So, my feelings are this. They're a bunch of two-toned zebraheaded slimecoated pimple farming parramsium brain munching on their own mucus. all suffering from Peter Pan envy and lude, crude, rude bag of pre pre- chewed food dudes lying, crying, spying, prying ultra pigs. >> That was a little >> How do you really feel? >> Yeah, that was a line from Peter Pan if you remember that. Uh >> yeah, it was written by George Carlin apparently. >> That could be that is that's probably true. >> Dressing for success. >> I was invited to shoot. >> Oh, have you done this before? >> No. You know me pretty well. Does it seem like a thing that I do? >> You fish a lot. It's it's not that far off this off the uh off the the image map. >> Yeah. But it's it's it's just not I mean I'm just hoping to come back with all my fingers, you know, and all I've shot, you know, I've done I've done sporting clays before, you know, the rabbits and the uh the the clay pigeons. >> Shot ski. >> Yeah. Same. You have? >> Isn't ski a little bit just the same thing? Isn't it a little bit different? Well, there's two there's the two main gun things of competition. They have skis and traps, >> right? And I don't know the difference necessarily. >> Well, the difference is the traps are well, one thing, the traps is really hard. Traps, the uh the clay pigeon is shot into the air away from you and it gets further and further away. >> Yes, I've done that. >> Ski the traps go the clay pigeon goes across in basically the same distance from you. So, I usually do trap and ski then because I do stations and one goes flying that way and one goes up to the left and you got to shoot both of them. >> Maybe. >> And then you got the rabbits that go along the ground. >> Yeah. I've never done that. That's the one only thing I haven't done. >> Yeah. So, I got this going on and everybody's I was invited to go with my good friend Paul tomorrow. So, we'll see what this is all about. It should be interesting. It's an early morning shoot. Uh and then uh we go up to this really cool uh shooting club in the middle of Florida and looks kind of posh to be honest with you. So I guess I'm sure there'll be plenty of drinking and fun. >> Yeah, >> it's going to be a good time. >> Nothing like shotguns and booze. >> What a combination. >> That's what I said. I'm hoping to just come home with all my fingers. That's my hope. That's that would be like a major victory for me. Um, but I am bringing, by the way, I do have my hunting outfit, my my uh drab pants, and my and my uh >> See, this doesn't surprise me. >> Yeah, I got to look good. I got to look good when I'm doing it. Come on. And and uh and I have my uh fall colored uh camouflage that I'll be wearing. >> Yeah, you look like a schmuck. >> Think twice before robbing Andrew Horowitz. >> I did shoot. I told you I was going. I shot a 79 out of 100. >> Okay. >> Pretty good. >> That's outstanding if you if if the way it's scored every time they sended a 100 clay pigeons up and you hit 79 of them. >> Yeah. Well, it's not all at once, but yes. I mean, it's all at once. I couldn't really >> All at once. See? >> No, but I did I shot that and I actually shot a uh a revolver with 410 cartridge in it or shotgun shell, whatever it is. Uh, four out of six. I was on fire. >> You got a revolver at a clay pigeon. >> I did. It's It has a It's a 45 slug or a 410. >> Yeah, Adam has one of these guns. >> It's called the Judge. >> Yeah, he's got the exact gun. They're usually chrome. >> Yep. I shot him. I shot the clay picture four times. And by the way, not only were you surprised about this, so was everybody else standing around me because nobody was hitting this thing. I hit it. >> Well, you were on the roll. I mean, once you get the hang of it, you know, it's made the >> the way you do it is you have to lead. >> Yes. >> Uh the shot and once you get the hang of doing that, you should be able to keep doing it. >> Yep. And then I won a gun on on top of everything else. >> You won a gun? >> I did in a raffle. There's a lot of guns up there. I won a Smith and Wesson 9 millimeter. >> Yeah. >> Mrs. Horowitz, the next Bionic Woman. >> Uh, last night I um I rolled over. So, yesterday was a rough day for me. Because you want to know why? >> Yeah. Why? >> I'll tell you why. Uh, my wife has surgery. She had hip replacement surgery. >> Oh, yikes. That's got to be put her That's That means you're going to be doing a lot of work. >> You know, you would think that. And I did buy her a wheelchair. So the when she has to do my laundry and stuff, at least you can get around. Okay. >> Oh, that's nice. >> Thank you. >> You're always thinking of her. >> She nice nice guy that I am. So what was interesting is what is interesting is that uh she has the surgery, get to the hospital, get to the hospital at 5:30 in the morning. They check her in, they go through the process, by 7:30, she's wheeled off into surgery. Who wants to have an operation when you're groggy? >> Well, just, you know, what's the difference? So, she gets wheeled off. First one, first surgery is is is the best. Supposedly, the surgery is only about an hour. 2 hours of initial recovery, 2 hours of secondary recovery. So, the surgery goes on time, the recovery is there. I am like deliriously falling asleep in my soup waiting there, right? Uh I only got like two hours sleep that night. And then uh I we we we I pick her up. I get her. She comes to the car cuz you know you go through a little bit of physical therapy and stuff and all that. I bring the car around. She gets up out of the wheelchair and walks in the car. I'm thinking it's pretty interesting. So then we get home and she's like, "Okay, I feel fine." Like, "What do you mean you feel fine?" "Well, I don't have any pain." I'm like, "That's cuz you got all this anesthesia in you and all this stuff." >> Yeah. They just pump Yeah. pumped it through all sorts of stuff. Whereas ice packs, let me get to the very just rip through this very quickly. Bottom line, a day later today, she's walking around just fine. A little bit of a a little bit of a limp, you know, a little bit of a thing, but no pain at all. Walking around. She's on the bicycle that with a with a physical therapist. They're doing exercise. They say she's like in her second week of recovery in the second day. >> So, you know what? >> She should have been a professional football player. >> So, here's the punch line. I'm returning the goddamn wheelchair. She could do my laundry without it. No, I'm kidding. >> The D'vorak literary lineage. >> Uh, actually, when I first mentioned your name, he didn't know who you were because I said, "Do you know John C. D'vorak?" Cuz John John C. D'vorak. John D'vorak. Oh, D'vorak from this place and that place and you know all that. I don't know. I've only known you as John C. D'vorak. So, I don't know what where he was left off the scene. I don't know where he got that from. He should know. Everyone should know me as John C. D'vorak. Maybe some other >> only know you as John C. D'vorak. >> Yeah. >> There there is no Is that a family thing? >> No, there's a bunch of different D'voraks or all writers. There's one that worked for the Kansas City Star. There's I think a John H or an M that is the number one writer. He used to write for High Times or he's maybe just John D'vorak. He write used to write for high times and he still does I think and he writes about propot policies. Nobody's ever mixed the two of us up. That's I've always found that interesting. >> That's interesting. >> And there's a metallurgist, very famous metallurgist, a vulcanologist. >> A lot of I don't know why his name is >> There's a keyboard there's a keyboard named after you. >> Well, that's Yeah, but that's that goes back to the >> 30s. I don't know. I'll have to talk to him again. >> That's not a John Devar. That's Augustus. >> Okay. I got a picture. Sure. I sent you a picture of me with the signed limmerick behind me. Did you see that? >> No, I did not. >> Well, if you check your text every once a month, you'll find it eventually. Okay. >> Okay, I'll check it out. >> Yeah. >> Is that an Indian in your pocket? >> I must share with you because I'm sure you're curious. What kind of boat am I going over in? You may be asking. >> I wasn't >> curious. >> Now I am. >> Now you are. I'm going over in a 68 foot motor yacht. A Lazaro Italian stylish motor yacht. I'll be sleeping in the forward state. >> This isn't your boat. >> No, this is my friend's boat. But he brings me because I cook for all the people the whole weekend. >> Ah, you're the chef. You're the chef. >> Yeah, I'm the uh >> I'm the I'm the uh >> what's the guy on the boat called? >> The guy in the galley. >> The galley cook. The cook. What's it called? There's a name for that guy. >> Uh well, anyway, that's >> Hey Siri, what is the cook on a boat called? Here's an answer from Wikipedia. A chief cook, often shortened to cook, is a senostist unlicensed crew member working in the steward's department of a merchant ship. >> There you go. You like my Siri voice? That guy? You got this some guy from Bombay? >> That's Abu. >> Oh god. My kids are like, "What's wrong with you?" I go, I'm trying to promote diversity. What the hell? Racist. >> It is not racist. It's diversity. When I do my exam, someone says I'm racist. >> It's not racist. It's a job. Abu. >> If you thought hockey was a rough sport. >> Do you have any athletes that take use your services? >> You know, over the years I have had athletes. It's my preference not to have athletes because I can't stand to watch them getting ripped off by their managers. I can't take it. I've seen I I had a ton of um I had some football players, but I had a bunch of hockey players, a bunch of hockey players for years, and I just I I I was watching what was going on with these guys. I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can't I can't be a part of this." I was afraid I was something was going to they were going to come after me. >> Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to get caught up in anything with this shady management. >> Bad people. Bad bad people. And you can't rip you can't rip the players away from the management. It's not like I could say, "Oh, we'll manage for you or something like that." You can't. So, we're just, you know, picked to do the the money man. >> They after they're retired, they still keep these these guys. >> Um, they they sometimes do, but, you know, still they're all wrapped up with the accounting firms that were brought in by the management that kickbacks for all the different stuff back to management. You know what I'm talking about? It's just it was a mess. It was a mess. and the stuff that they would recommend uh big insurance policies on young people and I mean you know paying like $150,000 a year for life insurance and I said why are you doing that and then unmarried players like what are you doing that for well it's really good investment I'm like the only thing is you're getting an 80% commission on this deal that's why this is a good deal and then I just couldn't take it >> that's a good story >> a rare behind the scenes moment Hey, John. >> Equipment failure. Sorry. >> Good morning. I had I called up I had helicopters circling your house. >> Yeah, >> I had Do you know how many people we have involved in this search and rescue program right now? >> A lot and I appreciate it. >> I had I was like, "Oh god, what if something happened? I don't I don't know what to do." So, I had feeling so I so I so I just bored the crap out of the audience. We're going to pick up. Well, >> yeah. You know what? You You're not boring. So, that didn't happen. We're going to pick up. We're going to talk about um we're just going over the market update right now. Government shutdown clock continues. Oil is still rising. And >> we have back to school. Some interesting things there. So, that's good news. >> You know, we were talking about back to school on the uh no agenda show. >> Can I just say look look at can I just say can I just say something? Look at how this man snaps into action. Just Johnny on the spot, right? Doesn't gets right in there. Doesn't need a warm-up or anything. If you want me to, I can re record the opening for you, too. And you just slap it on >> there. It's all good. I I I did a double take, so it's fine. I'll figure something out. They'll like it. You want to record it? >> Yeah, I'd love to. >> All right, hang on a second. >> Let's give some people insight into how these podcasts are made. >> You've been listening in on a conversation. It's September 2023. Do you have enough toilet paper? Did I tell you the story about during CO with my wife with the toilet paper, right? >> Remember that story? >> No. Yeah, I don't remember the story. I We have a lot of toilet paper stories in our family. >> So, my wife decides during co one day she brings home a case of toilet paper. What the hell? She goes, "I got to get more." Like, "What are you doing?" She goes, "They're going to run out." I'm like, "What? What do you Why do you need all this toilet paper? You need toilet paper. They're going to run out. It's You need to have toilet paper." I'm like, "Honey, take a breath, baby. We got these really cool bedets in our house. You know these these >> Oh, you don't even use toilet paper. >> Use a sheet of >> You use like one tissue to to like Oh, I know. But they everybody's buying toilet paper. So, I got I think I got to do it, too. I'm like, okay, everybody's getting all worked up into you. You You've called this what do you call it? Hysteria, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Mass hysteria. >> That's what caused a toilet paper shortage. I had some guy, luckily, one of the listeners to our shows is uh works at Charmin, the big company. Oh, >> and during the toilet paper shortage, she sent me a big box of these giant rolls, huge almost joke rolls of char. It's actually one of the their better grades, too. And and a and a holder. So, he had this I posted this in one some social media of mine. And it's just a big giant roll of toilet paper. It's about I don't know two or 2 and 1/2 ft 2 and 1/2 ft in diameter thing on this special holder which keeps it off the ground and uh it lasts about two months. Uh the one roll >> yet another job replaced by AI. >> People would have that job. A Fuller Brush, the Fuller Brushman would come by once a month. >> Yep. They said that uh >> sell you a brush. uh the the fuller brush, but also wasn't the fuller brush. Oh. Oh, and the uh the vacuum cleaner guys that would spill dirt on your carpet and plug it in and clean it up. >> Yeah. >> My dad always had the Fuller Brush. He he he used to love Fuller Brushes. They would come by the house and go through all the stuff. There's knives people that would come by. Good old What are the good times? Tupperware days, you know. >> Nowadays, you come by, somebody shoot you. >> Yeah. Exactly, >> John. absolutely nails the open. Let's join John and Andrew now. >> I'm John Cavorak. >> And I'm Andrew Horowitz. >> And here it is 1010 day uh on 2023. 1010 day being an very lucky day. Uh Chinese lucky day and this be a good time to send donations in because you're doing it on 1010. >> I have a question. >> You know you know about 1010 day. >> I I don't know but it's 103. Oh, next Tuesday will be 10 10 day. >> I'm waiting. I'm like waiting for the punch line here. I I was wondering like what am I missing? >> But it was >> I'm looking at the calendar too and it's like the three is lit up. But next Tuesday will be 10 10 day the Chinese lucky day. And that's the time to donate. >> I should be. >> So you got a week in weeks notice. So, uh, I don't know if you want to hear the story, but basically went down diving and, uh, there was a big wreck down there about 75 ft and I was just going to go about 65 and I I was having real trouble just clearing my right ear. I've always had that problem. And, um, my left ear was fine. And I'm getting down there. It's hurting, but I'm I'm slowly moving down. You know, you got to slowly get down there. So, I'm about 65 feet. I'm finally like, okay, you know what? Things are good. I'm I'm feeling all right. I I I kind of tilt my head to the left and I don't know what came over me, but I like tugged on my left ear for some reason. And whoosh, >> you broke the seal. >> Whoosh. I was like, "What the hell was that?" And I felt something in my throat a little bit. And I'm like, "Oh." It didn't really hurt, but it was just weird. And uh then I got instantaneous vertigo. Everything was spinning out of control. So, I'm like, "Okay, I've had this before." >> The worst, by the way. >> Yeah. And diving is not good. You don't want to You don't want to get into a situation where you have to throw up into your regulator. >> It's It's You have no choice, by the way. You'll do it. You don't take the regulator out of your mouth. So, uh, anyway, I came up from that dive. It was an okay dive. It was an interesting wreck. Although, to be honest with you, the wreck was only there for three months. There was no life on it. It was just like this boat sunk in the middle of the sand. >> Oh, brother. Okay, go on. And so then we went up and went, long story short, I got out of the water. I'm like, "Okay, let me clear this out of my ear. Whatever the hell's going on, figuring I got water way down in it, right?" So I put the uh usual drops in, you know, those alcohol drops that you just put in and you lean over. Oh my, that hurt. >> What'd you do? Bust bust your eardrum? I I didn't bust my eard drum, but I must have um I must have I must have just like like scarred a little bit, you know, like like nicked it so that there was some it was it was raw so the alcohol touching it. Then I decided to wait out about an hour, >> got back in the water. As soon as I dive in the water, I'm like, "Ow, that hurts." It wasn't the pressure. It was it was more so the um the salt water. So I have to go to Dr. Brown. I said, "Where's I got to see a doctor. Let me go see a doctor. Make sure I didn't screw anything up." So, here's how this doctor's meeting goes. Ready? And I I kid you not. I get to his office. He's an old English chap >> and shorts and and a and a plaid shirt. Can you see this? >> Shorts and a >> terrible terrible teeth, glasses. He takes out the ear looker thing. You know what I mean? The ear the >> Yeah, the thing. >> And and you know, usually usually sterile tips. No, this is this from the bag. >> No, just he spit on it and wiped it off. >> This from the bag. puts it in the right ear, goes, "Oh my." He says, "Right ear is a bit beaten up. Bit beaten up." He looks in the left ear. Oh yeah, this one's worse. He says, "It looks like you have some hickeys on there." I'm like, "Oh, I don't see any scarring or that you that you burst your eardrum." He looks at me. But that's not your problem, sir. What do you mean? The problem is you're fat. That's what he sounds like some sort of a joke. some sort of a Jewish joke. >> And I'm sitting there going, "What is he talking? What? Why? Why?" >> Like a second opinion. Well, you're ugly, too. I'm not kidding about that either. He says, "Look at your stomach." I'm like, "What's wrong with it?" He goes, "You're you're you're overweight." I'm like, "What does that do with my ear, sir?" And my son now getting pissed off. My son's in there and he's getting like, "Hey, doc." He's about to punch this doctor in the face. Okay. And uh he says, "Get on that scale." Like, "What? What do you mean get on the scale?" Anyway, he says, um, then he t then he takes his, uh, my blood pressure. He you seem very healthy, though. I'm like, I am healthy. I said, you know, you want to drop and do 10 right now, do 20. What do you want to do? You want to take take it to the ring? Dr. Brown, >> I'm burdened by technology. >> No, I haven't used a cell phone or a cellular phone since December of last year. I'm going the whole year without using one. >> What are you talking about? I call you on a cell phone. >> No, you don't. When's the last time you called me on? >> I text you. I text you. >> Yeah, you text me on a Google voice. >> Oh. Oh, I see what you mean. And how does Oh, I see what you mean. Then you go online and you look at the text from there. >> Yeah. >> And this is because Well, first of all, it began with why am I paying this? I don't use the phone that much. Why am I paying 30 or 40 or 50 bucks a month? It's like $600 a year. It's a waste of money. A uh B the uh it turns out that I don't need I don't like having these phones around on the car in particular because you tend to fall back on navigation tools which I'd rather I can navigate. I know how to get from point A to point B. And I notice everybody around me has got these phones telling them they've been in the neighborhood for 25 years and they're letting the phone tell them to take a left and a right. I find it to be somewhat disgusting. Scan school 101. >> About 10 years ago, maybe closer to 15 years ago, I got a speeding ticket. So, I took um I took a traffic um school or whatever it was so I'd get the thing taken off my record. >> Mhm. >> And the guy who was teaching it was really not teaching traffic school. He was teaching us the scams going on. And this was one of them. And then, of course, he was arrested >> uh right in the middle of the traffic school. And I we had to take it from somebody else. >> Why? Wait, wait, wait. Why was he arrested? >> I don't know. He was He was He All I know is I Here's how it went. I went to this kind of sketchy traffic school that was that was authorized in Chinatown, Oakland. >> Oh. >> It was in some sort of a building. There's this Chinese guy and he's not lecturing us about traffic, how to drive. if he's lecturing us about the scams of the insurance companies and how you h how the point system really works, how you get on your license and all these things you can't do and you shouldn't do and you have you better stop at a stop sign and he was it just went on and on with all this this crazy information. I was thinking, "Wow, we went to lunch, came back, the guy was in handcuffs and they hauled him off." >> Wow. >> It's a true story. And it's like it's like what? And I and they they gave us all uh certificates, little pieces of paper. Here's you get your money back and then you have to find something else. Find some other traffic school. >> Wow. >> I got you got your money back. But it was like and I never did find out why this guy got pinched. >> Maybe. >> But that's where I found out about the insurance company's database and the fact that they keep tabs on everybody if you start jumping from company to company. They don't want that. John's laser beam focus >> and it's the 19th of December or this is Christmas. I think this would be considered Christmas week >> or the week before Christmas. >> Of course. Of course. And you did something >> over I believe isn't >> you did you did something very special for Christmas. >> What might that be? >> Uh something to do with a computer and uh a shiny round object. >> A Chinese round object and a computer. R. We just talked about this 30 seconds ago. >> A sh a I can't remember what that might be. >> Did you not tell me 30 seconds ago? You you you just did your first DVD in years. >> Oh, a sh Oh, I you mean a disc? >> Yes, I did. I thought you said Chinese round object Chinese round >> a Chinese round object. Am I thinking what is he talking about? Ben balls. I have no idea. >> Oh, going there, are we? >> Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the bus kill. >> So, you want to hear a really cool story in closing? >> Yeah. >> So, on last Friday, I was invited to a an event. It was the state of Broward County. It was his breakfast and uh there's like a thousand people there. Then they invited a keynote speaker up, guy named Will Gera. Who is Will Gada? Will Gadera is a guy who is a restaurant tour, restaurant uh gent who actually took a restaurant in New York from a average brazerie, if you will, to the number one restaurant in the world. His name is Will Gadera. It's 11 Madison. You've heard of that restaurant? >> I've been to 11 Madison. >> Okay. So, you know, you know what I'm talking about, right? >> Yeah. >> They've actually gone through >> that's the number one restaurant in the world, but Okay. Okay. Number one, three James Beard Awards, three um uh what do you call it? Uh >> Micheland stars, >> three Michelin stars and uh told the story of how he got there and what happened. One of the fascinating things they did, if anybody's watched some of these shows like the Bear, they did things more to make people happy that to make people remember they'd been there. For example, there was a couple there that foodies and they were traveling around and the waiter overheard they were there and they had the most wonderful weekend. They're leaving tomorrow. Oh my gosh. of all the food we had, the one thing we never had and we've never had is a New York City hot dog. Well, he hears this. He runs out to a cart, grabs a couple of hot dogs, comes back to kitchen, goes to the three sharp Michelin chef, and says, "I want to serve this." And they're like, "Are you kidding?" >> Long story short, serves it. Makes the night of these people. Stories like this go on and on and on. >> So, so, so let me get this straight. So, these people are in New York. >> Yes. to go to this restaurant. >> Yes. >> And there in New York where those those hot dog carts are everywhere. >> Yeah. >> You can't go three blocks without running into one. >> Yeah. >> And they couldn't bring themselves to just buy a damn New York hot dog right there on the spot at the cart and eat it there like everybody normal people do. They had to go in the restaurant and moan about it and be overheard by an eavesdropping waiter who then took care of their their need for this hot dog. This is a bogus story. You deflated the whole thing. You killed it. Just telling you over the top, crazy. The book is called Unreasonable Hospitality. Now, here's where it gets interesting. I was very much >> I I thought it was cool. I I thought his delivery was like a TED talk. It was very polished, by the way. And and I thought it was a very great way of looking at service and it was very inspiring and all that. I'll fast forward till Monday. I'm in the airport. I happen to be early morning. I had a little while to to to kill before my plane and I'm wandering through this store and I see the book on the bottom shelf under the best sellers and I take a look and I grab the book. I open the book. He signed that book while he was in the airport on Friday. He put the date and he signed it and he just put it back on the shelf. How weird is that? Uh, well, which reminds me of a story. It is weird, but I like to go into if I have a chance, I'm in somebody's library, for example, I'll pull out a book and sign the author's name to it. >> Oh gosh. >> With a >> He just killed this also. >> Although Although I know it was him because it was the same date that he was in town. I know that for a fact. >> Okay. But typically you you this is a good gag for anybody out there. You you nobody's around. You got see this guy and you find a book that's by by a contemporary author. You pull the book out and you sign the name of the author on the book on the on the title page usually and uh and you write a a little thing like best gay experience I've ever had. >> You're a terrible man. You're a terrible man. and then sign it and just put it back. >> Very nice. Well, on that we're going to say goodbye. >> A solid case for encryption. >> I'm reminded again, I hate to be keeping telling these stories, but Radio during the early days of analog cell phones, cell phone technology. Uh, RadioShack had a scanner. It was like just a general scanner for radios. And all you and but there was this underground methodology. If you soldered a joint inside the device, it turned into a cell phone scanner. So you could listen in on phone calls. >> So you just turn it on and you next thing you know, you're listening in on phone calls. We made a kind of a party out at this for let's say two or three years at the house. We'd have dinner and turn this thing on and listen to people talking and you It was just mostly drug deals. >> Yeah, it was drug I can remember these these calls. Drug deals. Uh it depends on the hour, but during dinner it was drug deals and guys uh calling their uh mistress to say they get they can't come over tonight. They're going to the wife is getting suspicious. You get a lot of that. >> Wait, how come you didn't get any normal phone calls? You always always had these crazy phone calls. >> I would say 90% of the phone calls were not normal. They were all this. Oh, the last one if we did it during the day, uh it was mostly guys calling their secretary to get just before Google getting directions on how to get to point A or to point B. So, there's a lot of calling to get directions, a lot of hookers, uh, and some and a lot of lewd calls, and then there was always the couple stock market guys chatting, and they would, uh, the conversation, they'd click, they change cells, and this thing wouldn't do that. >> So, you'd always miss out on the stock tip, which was very annoying. But then when they went digital, this is all moot. >> Mhm. >> Healthcare in the United States of America. You know, I went to the Did I tell you a story that I went to the doctor the other day for a health check? >> Yeah. >> And uh I went in and I it was for a uh wellness checkup, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Did I tell you the story? >> No. >> So, I go in for a wellness checkup. This is true. And uh I get I first I I wrote them on their little my chart thing and I'm like, "Look, I'm coming in Friday. It's the Friday before. How about I have an idea. How about you order blood tests? I'll take them on Tuesday. By the time I'm in there, you'll get them. This way, you can figure out what's going on. You don't have to say to me, you know, let's get some blood tests when I'm there, and you'll come back and we'll look at them together. >> Yeah. >> So, they're like, "Oh, good idea." So, I got the blood test, everything was fine. I get there. I say to the uh the the doctor, I would like to talk about uh I have like four items that I'd like to talk about. Oh, no. Is it is it a problem? I'm like, "Well, yeah, kind of." You know, I got like my right calf is bothering me. My ear's a little issue. Um, no, no, no, no. Can't talk about that. Why not? This is a wellness visit. I'm like, "Okay, I'm here. If you want to talk about the problems," That's what they said. Issues, whatever she called them, issues, problems. If you want to talk about that, we could do that, but we can't do the wellness visit. I'm like, "I don't I don't understand." I said, "I don't think I really want to understand, but okay. >> I understand." Well, yeah. You you understand because they wanted to charge me again for another visit. >> Yeah. It's probably >> it's a scam. The whole thing is the whole system is this way. >> Yeah. It's it's it they they they they have a certain code for wellness and that's all they can put in for that. They can't collect on top of for the other stuff. Terrible. It's terrible. So, it was just I I snuck in a few questions. Anyway, >> the whole country the whole country stuck with this. >> It's just awful. I mean, honestly, there was What did they do with the wellness? She did the she like touched my abdomen and and like you know she she she did the she like you can breathe in and out with the stethoscope a couple of times you know peered in my ear nothing to say about anything you know what else she do nothing else was it oh she tapped my knee like I don't know what tapping the knee did you know the old reflex thing like from the 1950s >> yeah what the what was the point >> unbelievable >> fun family memories >> so is this Uh, summertime's a good time of year for you. >> If I'm up there, I'm in California at the moment, >> right? But, you know, that whole area, it's cool, it's nice, it's pretty. Down here, it's humid and hot and disgusting. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you know, it's like I remember I grew up in New York, so it was like you got that >> Well, that's pretty hot and disgusting. >> Well, it's just disgusting. But actually, New York wasn't a disgusting, let's be very honest, New York when I lived there was not a disgusting place. I lived up there till 87. It isn't what it is now. It it got twisted. >> And um I remember very distinctly the summertime was uh you know, Memorial Day would start the summer time. My dad would get out his white shoes and his white pants. >> And did Do you have white shoes? White pants? >> I never had white shoes and white pants. >> Patent leather white shoes with the white jeans and the white pants. >> Yep. That was it. >> And then uh we put him away uh after Labor Day and the signal of when school started was the Jerry Lewis teleathon. >> That that's how we kind of lived through the summer. >> Those days are over. >> Way over. >> Less fond family memories. >> Give for little Johnny and little Drew. Give Give to uh to to help uh >> you Drew when you were a kid. Andy. >> Andy. >> Yep. >> Well, you don't even like if you if anyone calls you Andy, you get irked. >> I get irked. >> They used to call me Andy. Um Drew. Every once in a while when I was young, my grandmother once called me Krisco, which was I guess I was gaining weight. It was fat in the can. Would you stay in the bathroom a long time? What's >> No, fat in the can. Fat in the butt. Like my butt was getting big, I guess. Just call me Krisa. >> Nice. Nice, grandma. Thanks. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll see you again soon. >> Reaffirming. >> Yeah. Birthday. Birthdays and holidays only. Thank you. You know, >> the important question is, did you remember to refill the guest tank? >> I remember one time I was in Arizona and I wrecked a wrecked rental car. >> I rear ended somebody and the car was totaled. I I still drive it around after I, you know, forced the hood down and locked it in place. Curiously, the uh the airbag never went off, which I thought was I think they disconnected it just in case. So, you know, so what happens to the passenger and I drove it in, you know, to drop it off. It's all ruined and it there was like nothing. They didn't even like they didn't even care. Okay, I see you got into an accident. Okay. And then they I signed off and it was the end. I never heard back. >> I wonder if Evander Holiffield tells his famous D'vorak and Horowit story. >> You ever get up close and personal with these guys, any of these fighters? >> Well, the closest I've ca came to one of them, we my wife and I went to see the Vander Holiffield fight when he was a cruiserweight and he was taking on this guy named Tilman who he knocked cold. Uh, and he walked right by us and he is just a back. Yeah, that guy's a nasty guy. A nasty looking guy. He looks like he just wants to beat somebody up. >> I had the same experience with the same guy. >> Oh, >> I was at the Bullen Bear Club in New York City in Manhattan and uh I I was leaving and I walked up the stairs. It's like three stairs to get out the front door onto the street. And as I get up the second stair, someone calls my name to say goodbye to me. I turn around and I say, "Oh, bye." I turn back around to walk out out and like literally in my face is a Vander Holyfield face to face. >> And I look at him and I'm like, "Oh my." And he has this like leathery big strong face. Like his face itself hurt me just looking at it. It was >> Yeah. His fa he's got a he has a dynamite boxer's face. >> Oh. And I was just like I was petrified. I was >> petrified. I would ask for his autograph. >> I couldn't say anything. I'm like, "Sorry, [Laughter] >> well, I did. Well, I have to say this. I I did have actually a long conversation with uh with Joe Frasier." >> Oh, >> Smok and Joe. >> Smoking Joe. >> Yeah. There was an event at uh one of the ComX of shows years ago and he had a little thing he was doing and he and he was up on a on a kind of a platform and I I went up on this platform even though I had to kind of skip over a a barrier to get there and I when I went up there because I want to get some photos there was there was Frasier and he was standing there and so we had a chat >> and I and he signed a bunch of stuff for me. He wouldn't sign any gloves because he the gloves were the wrong brand. and he couldn't touch him. Uh he had this, you know, some I guess he couldn't sign somebody else's brand of glove, >> right? >> And uh he was a great guy. >> Frasier. Joe Smok and Joe. >> Smoking Joe Fraser. >> December 2023. It's a scam. >> Is it is it less costly to go through the Panama Canal than it is all the way around? That's the question. >> Well, that's what they're doing then. They're they're gouge. It's a gouge. So if if they're doing that, there's no reason for people not to just go around >> besides the time. >> They could go around, but it just takes time and money and with the cost of fuel and the rest of it. The canal was put there for a reason. So you didn't have to go around and it's expected to become well, it's going to cost you this much to go around. That's what we're going to charge you to go through the canal. Then what's the point? >> Yeah, I guess. Have you Have you done it? >> And then there's also a thought that the Chinese are getting a different rate, which wouldn't surprise me, by the way. >> It's possible. Have you gone through the canal? >> No, you have though. >> I've done I've gone twice. >> Oh, I didn't know you have gone through twice. >> I went through once halfway and once full way. >> What do you mean halfway? Where they drop you off in the middle of the >> This place This place you can get off. Yeah, >> it was one was on >> What would you do after you got off? >> I forgot what we did. We went somewhere. I got on a bus and I went to a bar or something. >> Wow. >> Well, no. The No, no. When I say the canal got me off this canal, >> you know the canal go there's a long canal. There's a long it's not just one thing. It's multiple multiple multiple locks. >> Yeah, I I understand that. >> So I went once on a cruise ship with my wife and we went through the whole whole thing and it was a whole it was like a half a day or more. It was a whole day I think. The other one is something you could take a bus and ride back and then you know just go through and get the feel of it. Now, the first one I went on with my son, >> it was like a It's like you have a like a like an amusement ride. >> It's like a taste of the canal. >> A taste of the canal. >> Well, you know, I forgot all about the fact that you had this panic in the house about the toilet paper during the co thing. It's like reminds me of my mom every time she'd, you know, she would she think Chinese were stealing all the toilet paper and so she had to go buy a bunch of it. By the way, great idea that we had a plug for the Too Many Eggs book. Too many eggs.com. You can get a free PDF. I thought I'd plug it again. >> Oh, there you go. You know, and then uh I got to tell you something. Um Ryan picked up a bunch of the times that you called the date wrong on the open of the show and and I'm sitting there going, >> I thought that was amusing since I it's impossible. I I look at the calendar while I'm doing that bit. There's several several times that we just like, uh, are we doing something different today? I don't >> Oh, yeah. Well, actually, yeah. Last week I was off by a day. >> Yeah. Well, >> anyways, >> not that you mentioned, not last week, but a couple shows ago. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. So, that's the end of this. 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